Hegel on Faith vs. The Enlightenment
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What is the overall focus of the episode and how do the hosts introduce Hegel’s Phenomenology?
This is Close Reads, a philosophy podcast with Mark and Wes. I'm Wes Allwan, and I'm Mark Linzenmeyer. It's a new day and uh we're gonna celebrate that by doing more of what we've been doing on Parsh's exam in life for a long freaking time and everybody thought we were done with, but we're not quite done. It tangles phenomenology. And of course we could do this for the rest of our lives, but let's uh this is not this is really we could see it as a part three to our most recent episode on it, episode three ninety four. We really didn't get to the latter part of our reading assignment in the discussion, so I think we wanted to start on section five fifty one. Right, we're talking about the way in which the enlightenment diagnoses faith.
How it gets it wrong.
This section before that I'd been talking about faith as the spirit of the community.
Mm-hmm.
And how how the Enlightenment is a self refuting lie. So I think in this section we're gonna be getting into This idea that People can't be deceived about their own essence, which I suppose is a retort To the idea that the general masses need enlightening, I'm not I'm not sure. This has been a battle between faith and pure insight. Pure insight is what he associates with the Enlightenment.
Yes. They are they are supposedly one and the same thing, seen from different points of view. The point of view in question is that they're both part of the self conscious essence of humanity and the s this insofar as it is self conscious, insofar as it has that bending back, it is pure insight, insofar it is mere in itself, mere consciousness before the bending back, than it is faith. But the question is, sort of w what is it consciousness of? It seems like we don't have direct consciousness of God or something like that, but Hegel's actually gonna say something like, Well, we sort of do, because it is part of the phenomenology of the way that the individual interacts with the larger cosmos.
All right. Five fifty one. Let us see further how faith experiences the enlightenment in the different moments of its own consciousness. to which the view mentioned above referred to only generally. These moments are pure thought or as object absolute being in and for itself. Then its relation as knowing to absolute being. The ground of its belief And lastly, its relation to absolute being and its acts or its worship and service. Just as pure insight has failed to recognize itself and has denied itself in belief generally. So too in these moments will behave in an equally perverse manner. Alright, why did I think this was about people deceiving themselves in my notes? Um
well They don't realize, right, as faithful beings, they don't realize that the God that they think they are aware of actually is their self-consciousness. So they are deceived. They think that God, right, per the enlightenment conception of faith, God is something out there. You know, you can only have faith in it. You can't actually know it. But insofar as they are partaking in self consciousness. the phenomena of God is actually right there with that. They're just they don't know that. They're deceiving themselves about that.
Yeah, I mean there is a section about that. I guess it's the previous section actually, five fifty. Just had it misnumbered. So but anyway, yeah, there is a section about not being deceived about your own essence. But here yeah, so here he's introducing a whole new You know, these three different things that he's gonna address in the rest of the reading. In our main episode we talked about the ground of belief, for example, the Enlightenment criticizes faith for grounding its belief. in these external contingent historical facts like the like crucifixion or like miracles and finds that wanting. In various ways and Hegel's gonna say, Well, you don't you don't get it. So yeah, he's gonna go through and respond to, defend faith against these various enlightenment criticisms.
So faith is not a static thing, any phenomenon in any stage in Hegel's thought is gonna have moments within it.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the overall focus of the episode and how do the hosts introduce Hegel’s Phenomenology?
0:01–6:45
2
How do the hosts explain the Enlightenment’s diagnosis of faith and why it is considered a “self‑refuting lie”?
6:45–12:38
3
In what way does Hegel describe faith’s experience of the Enlightenment’s “picture thoughts”?
12:38–19:58
4
Why does Hegel argue that faith is not deceived about its own essence and what does that mean for the notion of God?
19:58–27:26
5
How does pure insight (the Enlightenment) adopt a negative attitude toward the absolute being of believing consciousness?
27:26–33:45
6
What role does communal worship play in reconciling the tension between faith and pure insight?
33:45–40:34
7
What positive contributions does the Enlightenment make to faith according to Hegel’s analysis?
40:34–48:07
8
How do the hosts wrap up the discussion and what are the key take‑aways about faith, reason, and the absolute?
48:07–57:17
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