El Niño’s ‘Doomsday’ warning: What’s coming?
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What is El Niño and how often does it occur?
The Pat Kenny Show. With timber living log cabins. Saturday and Sunday from 10am on Newstalk. Conversation that counts. The UN's weather agency has issued a stark warning El Nino could become the strongest since monitoring began four decades ago. The World Meteorological Organization, the WMO, says intensifying droughts, floods and extreme weather could hit communities, economies and global supply chains, as you'll hear now in this clip from Professor Celeste Saulo, Secretary General of the WMO.
This El Niño will deliver a major blow to communities, economies and supply chains across the globe. So many sectors will be affected. Agriculture, trade... fisheries, health, energy, transport, water resources, disaster management, to name but a few. We are already seeing disruption and devastation from droughts and floods and extreme weather. We expect these impacts to multiply and cascade as El Niño intensifies.
It's a sort of a doomsday list of possibilities. Now, already the Panama Canal has announced that they are restricting shipping traffic along that vital waterway because of a drought attributed to El Nino. Joining me now to talk about El Nino is Peter Thorne, director of the Icarus Climate Research Centre at Maynooth University. Peter, good morning.
Why is the current El Niño considered the strongest on record?
Good morning.
You might remind our listeners exactly what El Nino is and how episodic is it? How frequently does it occur?
So El Niño is a phenomenon that occurs in the tropical Pacific Ocean, which is a huge area. And it's got its little sister, La Niña. El Niño means boy in Spanish, La Niña, girl. And it's basically an episodic... either heating under El Niño or cooling under La Niña of those waters. This, as you said, is the strongest in at least decades, possibly going back over the entire instrumental record. The only possible comparator is an event in the late 1800s, and that's highly uncertain how strong that was. So we're looking into an unprecedented situation here.
So how often does it occur?
It occurs between every three to seven years. It occurs and it's occurred for millennia. It's occurred for thousands of years. We can look in coral growth records and other proxies to see that it's been going for thousands of years, possibly even millions of years.
Which regions will experience the most severe weather impacts from this El Niño?
This phenomenon has been occurring and having impact principally in the Pacific and also in the Indian Ocean regions. and knock-on effects to many other parts of the world.
So effectively, what we get is heating of the oceans. Do we know what the mechanism, what is the driver of that heating?
So it's a bit like proverbially a very, very large bathtub with heat being added Typically in the west and cold being added in the east and what happens is the winds reverse and the heat piles from the western Pacific over into the eastern Pacific in the El Nino and vice versa in the La Nina you effectively increase the cold tap in the east and you spread cold water. across much of the Pacific. This has been happening for thousands of years, as I said, but the mechanisms are well understood. It's a coupling of the atmosphere and the ocean.
So why doesn't it happen every year?
It doesn't happen every year because it takes time for the heat or the cold in El Nino or La Nina to build up. It takes time for the ocean to slosh backwards and forwards. It's a very, very large ocean. It covers about half of the Earth's surface, the Pacific Ocean.
Now, the implications of this being possibly the severest El Nino ever, certainly since records began, according to the WMO, and no probably detailed records from the late 1800s. What are the implications of this severity?
How will the extreme El Niño affect global food production and supply chains?
So the implication is the largest and most predictable in the Pacific and Indian Ocean regions. So in North America, for example, in the US, they will have a very wet winter in California and up the West Coast. A very warm winter probably in the interior north of North America. Similarly, Australia, it's very highly predictable that in El Nino they will have drought. So in certain regions of the world, particularly surrounding the Pacific, but also in India, the Indian monsoon already has been reduced this summer.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is El Niño and how often does it occur?
0:01–1:29
2
Why is the current El Niño considered the strongest on record?
1:29–2:42
3
Which regions will experience the most severe weather impacts from this El Niño?
2:42–4:26
4
How will the extreme El Niño affect global food production and supply chains?
4:26–6:05
5
Can governments and societies realistically prepare for an El Niño of this magnitude?
6:05–8:07
6
Will this El Niño accelerate climate‑change‑related events like wildfires and heatwaves?
8:07–10:33
7
What does the current El Niño tell us about future climate risks for Europe and the Alps?
10:33–13:47