Michelle McDonagh's new book 'If These Walls Could Talk'
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The Pat Kenny Show. With timber living log cabins. Saturday and Sunday from 10am. On Newstalk. Conversation that counts. Now, what would you do if your husband rang you from the motorway, you heard the sound of a crash, and then he simply vanished? Well, that's the gripping premise at the heart of If These Walls Could Talk. It's a new novel from author Michelle McDonagh. Good morning, Michelle. Good morning, Pat. Delighted to have you here. I've been enjoying the book while I was on holiday. And it brings together so many threads of Irish life, different aspects of Irish life. But first of all, where did you get the idea from?
Well, the idea for this one actually came from a real-life experience. It happened to my husband, Greg, about 14 years ago. I was on the phone to him late one night. So he was travelling from Cashel to Dublin. That's all I knew. He was on the motorway coming from a work event late at night and it was raining. And I was at home in bed with a toddler and a baby fast asleep. So while I was on the phone to him, he crashed the car and all I heard was a bang and... this noise kind of like kerfuffle and him just calling shell shell three times he called my name and that was it and that was it and i sat there and terrified and thought what do i do so i rang 999 straight away and the first thing they asked me was where is he and i said i don't know he let he's somewhere between cashel and dublin and what time did he leave cashel i don't know
I didn't know.
And I mean, why should you know?
Yeah, I didn't. I hadn't asked him. I didn't know. And then it was a half. I had to ring his parents who were in Spain at the time to explain what had happened when after 10 minutes I'd heard nothing back. It was a half an hour before I was waiting to hear back from the guards. They couldn't find him. So he had overturned, the car had left the motorway, hit the central bollard. He'd picked up oil on his tires, we later found out, left the motorway, ended up on its side in a field, written off. And it was Kia Jeep, which he reckoned saved his life at the time.
How did a real-life motorway crash inspire Michelle McDonagh's novel premise?
So he scrambled back out in his suit and he'd been all geared up for work to the motorway through the hedgerow and brambles, flagged down a taxi driver.
And what about the phone? Had that been shattered?
What happened during the actual accident Michelle recounts from 14 years ago?
Phone was shattered, yeah.
Yeah. Flagged and there was boxes of wine glasses in the car from the event all shattered. He walked away without a scratch. Flagged down a taxi driver. And this is true. Taxi driver had no credit. So we had to bring him to the nearest Apple Green. And every time we passed the Apple Green in Kildare, we're like, that's where dad had a scratch.
So pinpointing the crash, I mean, subsequently, it was somewhere near the apple green.
Somewhere near the apple green, yeah, a field there.
A field near the apple green. So that was the inspiration, your terror, 11 years ago, whatever it was.
Yeah, and it has left me with a kind of anxiety whenever anybody's on the road and I can't get through to them. But then on a more positive note, when I was coming up with an idea for book four, I thought, what if... you know, a woman was on to her husband and he crashed the Jeep and the Jeep was found, but there's no sign of him.
And that's how the whole thing, the whole thing begins. The terror stays with you. You say, are you a bad passenger yourself?
Oh, I'm a terrible passenger. But I would say my husband, he's probably listening as a terrible driver as well. He's one of these that sees no fear and, you know, drives probably a little bit too fast.
And it's lashing rain and you're terrified in the passenger seat.
Yes. Well, whether it's raining or not, I'm terrified in the passenger seat.
But it shows with a novelist, nothing's ever wasted.
No, no.
Now, there are a number of different threads going through this. I mean, it starts with the missing husband. But as we go through the book, which, as I say, I enjoyed when I was on holiday, more and more detail of their lives together unfolds. I don't know how much you want to tell me about that.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:01–2:06
2
How did a real-life motorway crash inspire Michelle McDonagh's novel premise?
2:06–2:16
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What happened during the actual accident Michelle recounts from 14 years ago?
2:16–5:06
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How did the police and family react when the car was found but the driver was missing?
5:06–10:51
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How did that real event become the fictional mystery in If These Walls Could Talk?
10:51–12:16