The DNA trail in the Sophie Toscan du Plantier case expands

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Pat Kenny 0:01
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Barry Roche 0:11
Three decades on from one of the most shocking murders in modern Irish history, the investigation into the killing of Sophie Toscan du Plantier has taken a new turn. Gardaí are now seeking assistance from police forces across Europe and beyond in an effort to identify a DNA trace found on the victim's boot, evidence that could yet reshape understanding of a case that has long eluded authorities. Barry Roach, Southern correspondent with the Irish Times, is on the line. Barry, good morning. Good morning, Pat. Now, will you tell us how long it has been known that there was what they are calling alien DNA was found at the scene? Yeah, it came to light in 2018 and came to light via Ian Bailey, who your listeners will remember was a suspect, twice arrested for the murder here in Ireland, never charged in Ireland, but was convicted in absentia in France in 2019 of the voluntary homicide of Sophie Tusk on the Plantier.

What new developments have emerged in the Sophie Toscan du Plantier case?

Barry Roche 1:07
And in the course of his preparation for that trial, he didn't go to France, but in the course of his preparation for that, his lawyers obtained the French file and it emerged in that file that in examination had been carried out by French investigators when they came to Ireland in 2011. And forensic scientists from the Bureau, from the, let me get the correct title, the French forensic team came in 2011 and they conducted examinations of the exhibits given to them by Gardaí, which included the block, the stone and Sophie's clothing. And in the course of that examination, they found what they described, or what Ian Bailey said, they described as alien DNA on the right, the tongue of her right boot.
Barry Roche 1:52
She had these boots with sewn in socks on her at the time that she was murdered. And they were obviously removed later at post-mortem, but somehow or somewhere, this alien DNA was on the boot and was phoned by the French police investigators. And Ian Bailey then revealed that in 2018 and said it wasn't him. It didn't match his because he had given a sample on Christmas Eve, sorry, New Year's Eve 2000, sorry, New Year's Eve 1996 to Gardie, and they had provided that to the French, so it didn't match his DNA. It didn't match his DNA. So this was from part of the boot. They talk about an eyelet that the lace goes through, that that's where it was found. I don't know whether the supposition would be on the part of those who believe it was a third party and not Ian Bailey, that someone might have been dragging her body, for example, and
Barry Roche 2:45
That's how the DNA was transferred. That might be a theory, but they don't know whose DNA it is. No, they don't. And the most recent development that has come to light is the fact that Gardaí requested Forensic Science Ireland, who are the forensic authority in the country, to liaise with foreign forensic science organizations. agencies in over 20 countries who are all signatories to what is known as the Broome Convention, which was signed in Austria in 2005, Ireland joined later. It's a combination mainly of European Union countries, but some outside Iceland and Norway. And I've been doing some research on it, and it seems that combined total of all those signatories, they have a database of around 11 million criminal DNA samples, of which France accounts for 7.4 million.
Barry Roche 3:33
So it's by far the most substantial. have begun, or Forensic Science Ireland have begun liaising with those foreign forensic science databases, as it were. But today, nothing has come that provides a match to this alien DNA found on Sophie's boot. Now, what about locals who might have been implicated in some way or have any reason to have dealt with, for example, you know, a local cobbler who might have repaired the boot, that kind of thing? Anyone locally being asked to provide DNA samples, perhaps to rule themselves out?

How was the alien DNA discovered in the investigation?

Barry Roche 4:06
Gardaí have begun and they've begun, actually, they began first with the more obvious possible candidates, people who were at the scene of crime and so forth.

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