Aaron Rodgers doesn't think there should be talk around firing Mike Tomlin

1.516 - 18.394 Aaron Rodgers

I mean, this league has changed a lot in my 21 years. You know, when you hear a conversation about the Mike Tomlins of the world, Matt LaFleur's of the world, those are just two that kind of I've played for, and...

19.133 - 40.964 Aaron Rodgers

when I first got in the league, there wouldn't be conversation about whether those guys were on the hot seat, you know, but the way that the league is covered now and the way that there's snap decisions and the validity given to the, you know, the Twitter experts and all the, you know, experts on TV now who, who, who make it seem like they know what the hell they're talking about.

41.886 - 66.64 Aaron Rodgers

To me, that's an absolute joke. And for either of those two guys to be on a hot seat is, uh, is really apropos of where we're at as a society and a league because uh obviously matt's done a lot of great things in green bay and we had a lot of success mike t's had more success than damn near anybody in the league uh you know from for the last 19 20 years and

66.62 - 84.203 Aaron Rodgers

More than that, though, when you have the right guy and the culture is right, you don't think about making a change. But there's a lot of pressure that comes from the outside. And obviously that sways decisions from time to time. But it's not how I would do things and not how the league used to be.

85.224 - 102.288 Joe

I mean, he's just wrong. That's all. I don't know what else to say other than that. He's wrong when he says there wouldn't even be a conversation about the Tomlins and the floors of the world when I came into the league. I already pointed out all the examples. Long before he got in the league, there was Tom Landry getting fired in Dallas.

103.57 - 121.618 Joe

But when Rodgers entered in 2005, Andy Reid was about to go on his run or was already into it maybe in Philly. Multiple conference championship games, a Super Bowl appearance, and he was fired. Brian Billick was in the league still then.

121.717 - 147.454 Joe

having success in Baltimore, had one of the greatest teams, won a Super Bowl. He was fired. John Fox in Carolina, of all places, multiple division titles, Super Bowl appearance, fired. Marvin Lewis and Cincy took a terrible franchise, got them to the playoffs a bunch of times, fired. Marty Schottenheimer, fired after a 14-2 season. That kind of outdoes Matt LaFleur, 47-33 record.

147.434 - 170.387 Joe

Tom Coughlin with the Giants, the ultimate example of guys who were in the league with these teams when Rodgers came into the league. He would go on to beat and vanquish Belichick and Brady and the Patriots twice in Super Bowls. And guess what? He got pushed out. Hasn't changed. The social media universe has. Teams don't make their decisions based on that. They want to win playoff games.

171.363 - 200.699 Joe

And no matter how much regular success a guy has, or no matter how much success a guy may have had in his deep past, NFL owners want to win now. And it's true. Plus, if you did move on from Tomlin, it would be 19 years. That was the ridiculous thing about Harbaugh. When you had Tomlin saying, man, you know, Tom Landry, use that as an example. Don Shula. That can't happen nowadays.

290.467 - 314.673 Unknown

I mean, no, I don't, but I think that that would be the plan that Art would take over actually firing Tomlin. I mean, the Steelers allowed 174 points in the fourth quarter of the season, most by a playoff team ever. And ever since Mike came here, he's had the reputation of being, like, not a huge scheme guru, but a great motivator. Mike Tomlin is simply not that, at least not anymore.

314.854 - 318.938 Unknown

I mean, he's 1-11 now in playoff games after trailing in half time.

319.053 - 339.563 Joe

Well, here's what I would say, based on your call so far, is if they are going to keep Tomlin and the odds are very strong that they will, unless he decides, right? Unless he calls Artie. He's going to make the decision here, I guess. Then he has to not be the defensive coordinator. They have to bring in an independent defensive coordinator to run the show.