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The Pomp And Joe Show

Frank Michael Smith on Steelers needing offensive-minded head coach

15 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: Who is Frank Michael Smith and why is he significant?

0.031 - 12.066 Pomp

All right, this is interesting. I brought up the name Frank Michael Smith, and all hell broke loose. Limits knew who he was. Bob says he's a worldwide TikTok influencer.

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12.086 - 14.789 Limits

Is that going too far, Limits? No, that is 100% correct.

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14.809 - 31.312 Joe

If you look on TikTok, you'll see, again, very concise to the point and arguments that are really enhanced by his use of videos, graphics, and everything else. So I compliment him on that. I always have. I thought... And I know his dad, so I'm sure his dad's very proud of what he's been able to do.

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31.914 - 54.179 Pomp

Very good. I just happened to – somebody alerted me to a tweet that I agreed with that Frank Michael Smith put out 23 hours ago. Only one of the Steelers' last 12 first-round picks has received a second contract with the team. You won't hear it on TV, but his inability to draft and develop talent ultimately led to his playoff losing streak, which led to his departure. True.

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54.76 - 67.144 Pomp

And precisely the topic that I have maybe for my first trip column Saturday, Bob, which was going to be something along the lines what the national media never tells you about the Mike Tomlin tenure. That's if you pass your P test.

67.164 - 68.146 Joe

If I pass. Yeah.

68.186 - 76.498 Pomp

Well, right. So I already like Frank Michael Smith. Well, let's bring him on. FMS, they call him, I think. Yeah, and there he is. There he is.

76.779 - 82.166 Joe

What's going on, guys? Thanks for having me on. What's going on here? How does everybody know you except me? Because you're not on TikTok.

82.186 - 83.007 Pomp

Oh, yeah.

Chapter 2: What issues have plagued the Steelers' recent draft picks?

99.792 - 108.207 Frank Michael Smith

I started there in 2020. I started doing more evergreen stories. And then as things progressed, I started doing more opinion style and pomp. That's what you were talking about.

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108.809 - 112.368 Pomp

He already knows you on a pomp name basis? Bob?

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112.528 - 117.277 Frank Michael Smith

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Pomp and I are tight. Pomp's one of my biggest supporters. Thank you, Pomp. Always have been.

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117.297 - 130.864 Joe

Wow. Because I see stuff that I cannot do. I look at that and I said, damn it. That's a great, what he does. And he said that, I'm serious. I know. Weren't you just at a TikTok convention or something where they brought you up as one of the, seriously, one of the best influencers in the world.

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130.884 - 131.846 Frank Michael Smith

Yeah, the TikTok awards in LA.

Chapter 3: Why is Mike Tomlin's role in roster construction controversial?

131.886 - 133.549 Frank Michael Smith

It's a real thing now. You got to get on there.

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133.529 - 138.165 Pomp

Do you have Bob dancing in any of your TikToks or have you reposted those?

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139.248 - 142.78 Frank Michael Smith

You know what? If the Steelers hire the right coach, we might get that.

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143.654 - 154.406 Pomp

Bob, I'm starting to get the feeling with our big boss back there that I've introduced my successor here, and it's going to be pomp and smitty in a matter of months.

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155.347 - 170.944 Joe

Anyway, yeah, congrats on all the success. Like I said, I think your family is very proud of you. Just for those who don't know you and don't know how you came about this, when did it hit you that you wanted to do this, especially on this platform, that TikTok platform, knowing how it was taking off?

172.51 - 192.74 Frank Michael Smith

Well, I worked in sports media before 2020. So I was kind of early on the trends and I could see original content was clearly what was winning. So, you know, my company at the time wasn't really committing to it. And I was like, you know what? I have these skills. Let me just try and do it myself and put some TikToks out there. And, you know, that was the start of it. Where are you from?

194.482 - 198.669 Frank Michael Smith

From Fox Chapel. Fox Chapel. His dad's a good golfer too. Good golfer.

198.789 - 200.531 Joe

This is how you meet people, Joe. The golf game.

200.712 - 201.673 Pomp

How about college?

Chapter 4: What qualifications should the Steelers look for in a new head coach?

367.12 - 372.727 Frank Michael Smith

It seems obvious to me that that's the winning formula. So I like Sheil Haas. So do I. And I hope that's how you say it.

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372.747 - 375.671 Pomp

So do I. We got to say it that way, right?

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376.032 - 388.063 Joe

Yeah, it's going to be Steel. They won't call him Sheil Haas. They'll call him Steel Haas. Here's the counter to that. How about if he's the D.C.? How about if it's Shuler with the D.C.? That's what I'd like as the D.C. As an O.C., you mean.

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388.123 - 407.037 Pomp

As an O.C., yeah. Let me add to that, Frank. We have D'Amico Ryans, who's a defensive guy. We have Mike McDonald, who's a defensive guy. We have Mike Vrabel, who's a defensive guy. So it's not like you can't win with them, especially like I think of Vrabel. He's a CEO. He's a force of personality guy.

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407.077 - 419.293 Pomp

And he just handed his offense to an offensive, I think, an offensive genius in Josh McDaniels, a great quarterback developer. So I don't know that you necessarily have to have an offensive guy as the head coach, right?

421.079 - 450.613 Frank Michael Smith

know what do you have to maybe not regardless here change is going to be good i think that's the real takeaway is this was long overdue and we need a shake up in the building here anyone who argues that is just denying every single statistic that's out there um if it was shula look i'm getting to know these guys just like you are right now like i'm not going to pretend that i have a deep knowledge of of shula and shilhas and minter and all these guys like we've only had 24 hours to dig in here but

450.593 - 452.917 Frank Michael Smith

Regardless, change is going to be good.

452.937 - 458.185 Pomp

Limits, would you like to pipe in here? You were pumped that we that we're talking to Frank here.

458.205 - 473.349 Limits

Yeah, I've been happy to be able to follow a lot of his content. So when you talk about those offensive coaches, Frank, why do you think it is that the likes of Ben Johnson's Shanahan's the McVeigh's the way that they've been sparked? How do you think the Steelers should approach this?

Chapter 5: How do offensive-minded coaches impact NFL success?

540.148 - 541.031 Joe

Look at Artie Smith.

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541.051 - 541.673 Pomp

But there are a lot.

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541.974 - 547.273 Joe

I understand. But I would say if he has success, that's a good thing for your offense next year or the year after.

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548.924 - 566.006 Frank Michael Smith

Look, I'm all for having success. I don't want some big tank-a-thon. Some people are like, you got a tank to get a QB, and there's countless examples of teams that have found a QB that are not top five draft picks. You can do it. So I'm not saying that I want to lose, lose, lose, lose, lose, but having some success would be fine.

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566.066 - 573.295 Frank Michael Smith

You could be left in a position like the Lions, though, right now where Ben Johnson leaves, the team doesn't make the playoffs. I mean, no one had that before the season.

573.275 - 578.501 Joe

No, you're right. In fact, the Lions were looked at by a lot of us as a team that was going to be there against Buffalo.

578.961 - 597.342 Pomp

I just saw their interview in somebody. Arthur Smith. Oh, my God. For their OC? Explain to me this phenomenon, Frank. Artie Smith came here and failed. He failed miserably. He's doing handoffs to Jonu Smith. It's tight end. And he interviews for every coaching job. What is happening?

598.182 - 614.785 Frank Michael Smith

There's no explanation for that. I'm sorry. I'm sure Arthur Smith's a nice guy. But anyone who watched that playoff game or most of these games this season and saw how this offense struggled and this small ball stuff and bringing the extra offensive lineman on, it feels like you're telegraphing a lot of these plays.

615.826 - 624.358 Frank Michael Smith

And when push came to shove and you had to win a big game versus a good defense, we didn't score a touchdown. I don't know what part of that screams head coach. It doesn't make any sense to me.

Chapter 6: What are the pros and cons of hiring a defensive-minded head coach?

710.238 - 720.43 Frank Michael Smith

I got 1.8 million on TikTok, but total I got 3.5 million. Oh, my God. And he's a young guy, but see how fast it can work. Are you in Pittsburgh? I'm right here. I'm right in Fox Chapel.

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720.711 - 725.862 Pomp

Oh, you're in Fox Chapel now. Okay. So leave us with this. Who's going to win the Super Bowl?

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727.31 - 735.1 Frank Michael Smith

I've said this, and I'm not moving off of it. I don't like when people change their picks. So I think you're crazy to bet against Josh Allen. That's my pick. I'm sticking with it.

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735.14 - 737.684 Joe

We're going to have him on every week, Bob. You know you're talking to him.

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737.704 - 738.465 Frank Michael Smith

Maybe every day.

738.485 - 741.228 Joe

Bill's diehard here, so that makes him happy.

741.248 - 749.419 Frank Michael Smith

I mean, seriously, imagine we had to play them at some point in this playoffs. It would have been just a repeat of the regular season. We would have got killed.

750.108 - 765.334 Joe

Well, the run game was really the big problem there, and they still do that. That's another thing that's come back into style a little bit, this run game. People thought it was outdated. You can't draft a running back. You certainly can't pay a running back. Seems like more and more people are willing to say, no, I'll draft a good running back, and I'll pay him as well.

766.496 - 770.943 Joe

So all these teams can run the football. I don't know when that became such a thing.

Chapter 7: How does the Steelers' coaching search reflect current NFL trends?

827.727 - 834.096 Pomp

Okay, Limits. So you said Jeff Hathorne's under the weather, yes? Correct, yes. So we will talk to Jeff tomorrow.

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834.117 - 836.46 Joe

Yeah, he sounded a little bit under the weather last night, so...

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836.44 - 854.82 Pomp

Why don't we do a Penguins prediction? Why don't we wrap up what we know about the Steelers coaching search? Because there's been two candidates added as far as reportedly going to interview with the club. And we'll move on from there. Fan hotline presented by Sullivan Super Service, Pittsburgh. Wait, where am I, Bob?

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