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The Pomp And Joe Show

Jim Schwartz has resigned as Browns defensive coordinator

06 Feb 2026

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Chapter 1: What prompted Jim Schwartz to resign as Browns defensive coordinator?

1.786 - 30.416 Joe

Pretty big story here. You just mentioned it. I didn't know about it. We're a Donnie Football Friday today with none other than Donnie Football sitting across from me. Jim Schwartz resigns. So... Could the Steelers have waited? If you resign, are you then just available to any team? Do the Browns have to sign off? Are you free? What happens when you resign like that as a coach, Donnie?

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31.097 - 32.979 Joe

I ask because I'm wondering if they should have waited.

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34.061 - 53.808 DonnieFootball

I feel like when you resign, that opens up things to you being available to do whatever you want to do. He's leaving. It's kind of like, I don't know, when Bruce Arians had the fake retirement here.

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Chapter 2: Could the Steelers have waited to talk to Schwartz?

54.629 - 70.666 DonnieFootball

He didn't want to coach anymore. He immediately went to coach somewhere else. So I feel like that was his way out because he was held in due to the Browns still having a year left on their deal with him. Limits, can you check that out?

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70.786 - 73.493 Joe

So they would have some of those stories to see if he's just available.

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74.014 - 99.468 DonnieFootball

They would have had to grant him permission to go elsewhere. They probably didn't want to do that. and they certainly would not have wanted him to go anywhere in the division or maybe in the entire conference. I feel like him resigning means that he would be free to do as he pleases. Now, Adam Schefter says that the speculation is he will likely now sit out this season.

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99.529 - 113.749 Joe

See, yeah, I don't know about that. I'm not about sitting out the season, but if you resign... Don't they still have to give, I don't know, permission? I don't know. And how could that not be in these stories?

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Chapter 3: What happens when a coach resigns in the NFL?

113.769 - 130.157 Unknown

According to ESPN, it is. He is still under contract with the Browns, Jim Schwartz is. So the Browns can block any overtures from another team that is seeking a defensive coordinator. So I saw Schefter said on Twitter that the expectation is that Schwartz is just going to sit out this season.

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130.137 - 151.259 Joe

I mean, do you throw a draft pick their way? I certainly would have to try to entice them. I'm not saying they ever would have let him go to the Steelers, but he could after this season anyway. So what do they care if they get a draft pick out of it? I would have offered a draft pick for this dude. I would have been pumped to see him running the Steelers' defense. Do you agree, Donnie?

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151.86 - 169.915 DonnieFootball

Yeah, I mean, and people wanted to point out that he was more – They're prone to running the 4-3. The Steelers historically are a 3-4. I thought Aditi made a good point with the guys a couple of weeks ago when they made the Monken hire, and we knew right away how mad Schwartz was about that.

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170.958 - 192.46 DonnieFootball

She made a good point that said somebody with the defensive mind of Jim Schwartz, it's an insult to think the guy cannot adapt to a different defense and think just because he has run the 4-3 more than anything else to think he can't work with what the defense he is working with has.

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Chapter 4: Why might the Browns block Schwartz from joining another team?

192.44 - 193.942 DonnieFootball

is like a slap in the face.

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194.382 - 218.768 Joe

Sub-package football is the majority of football defensively. I really don't care about 3-4-4-3. To me, it's laughable. How often are they in sub-package? The answer is most of the time. What does it matter? And yes, I agree with her, too, that if you're dead set on the 3-4, as Mike McCarthy said, even though you'll be in it only a small amount of the time,

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219.71 - 225.661 Joe

This guy could coach anything, anywhere, anytime. I think he's that good as a defensive coordinator.

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225.681 - 244.639 DonnieFootball

Yeah, so then I quickly started to look to see if there was any sort of coaching connection with Mike McCarthy because we know that is a requirement to be on the Steelers' staff, but I'm not seeing one. Why wouldn't the Browns just hire him, by the way, at this point? They screwed up that situation only like the Browns could.

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244.839 - 252.775 Joe

Nobody wanted to go there, and I was just reading, he left the offices after throwing a tantrum when he didn't get the coach job.

252.915 - 281.33 DonnieFootball

And people wondered, why did so many guys turn that job down? Like, the guys that the Steelers had... in virtual interviews at least, like Sheilhaus, the hot names. They were turning the Browns away, and it was because we came to find out the Browns wanted to force Jim Schwartz on them. Like, hey, if you come in here, we're already picking this guy to be the DC. You have to work with him.

281.39 - 283.832 DonnieFootball

And maybe that wasn't something that they wanted to do.

284.112 - 284.853 Joe

Yeah.

284.873 - 311.424 DonnieFootball

So they dropped out of the process with Cleveland. Monken was one of the guys that apparently said, yeah, I'm cool with that. They didn't run that by Jim Schwartz, apparently. No, they didn't. Because then when Monken got the job, he, I think rightfully, got upset about it. Like, why not just hire him? If you wanted him to be on the staff so bad, just make him the head coach.

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