The Pomp And Joe Show
Pomp, Joe and Mark Kaboly react to Bill Belichick snubbed from Pro Football Hall of Fame
28 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the significance of Bill Belichick's Hall of Fame voting results?
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I understand and embrace the responsibility, the privilege, and the weight that comes with this stewardship. This city, this franchise, this fan base... It means the world to me because Pittsburgh is my world, and it's just awesome to be back here.
Bob, if I know you, I bet you a tear came to your eye during that.
You know me well. I cry over everything, and that makes me cry. Because I understand it. I understand exactly how he feels. I know. With your family in the front row, I get it. Believe me. And he's right about that. That is an unfair situation to bring your family in the front row when you're looking at the people responsible for who you are. And a literal dream come true.
And you've got to look at them. They should be nowhere near the front row.
84 and 87 years old, too.
Wow. Yeah, looking good.
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Chapter 2: Why do some believe Belichick should have been a first-ballot Hall of Famer?
So for everyone to harp on this hire, I understand the whole thing of it seems like we're moving into the next Tomlin and it's complacency. But I know he's going to get this offense right. The scheme's terrible with Arthur Smith. Who's going to be the quarterback? I don't care. I really don't. I don't mind Rodgers for a year. I would love to see Will Howard get a chance.
I think your take on Will Howard's for him. And I respect a lot of your takes. I think he's got the physical tools for it. He's got the size. He moves. What is my take on Will Howard, just out of curiosity? I don't know. I feel like deep down you want to give him a shot, but you think that everybody around is hyping him up too much. And I understand that.
Too bad.
Oh, Canada.
Oh, Canada. Oh, Canada. That's too bad.
Bye, Canada, right?
Yeah, that was a slip. It wasn't like he was trying. It just slipped out.
He meant to say that Josh Allen looked like crap. And now, I mean, ring the bell limits. That's a bell ringer. Can you ring it, please? We now have somebody mentioning Will Howard in the same breath as, there we go, Josh Allen. That's a bell ringer. That's a really weak bell. I know. Sounds like afternoon tea. Come on down. Would you like Earl Grey or would you prefer hibiscus?
What is that?
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Chapter 3: How does the panel react to the current state of the Pro Football Hall of Fame?
Did you close any bars? There were a couple, but we were there pretty late.
Do they still have the tradition? Now, I went there in 97 with my brother Johnny, where at the end of the night, when the lights come on and the bar is closed, they sang the Irish national anthem. Did they do that?
I've heard it in Irish, but not at the end of the night. I heard it before the end of the night in a couple of places.
Oh, wow. Sort of like when we were growing up and cable went off the air at midnight. Exactly. Now, why didn't you go to Ireland, as an aside? McAfee was paying for it, wasn't he? Yes, but you know what it was? He turns down a free trip to Ireland. I weaseled my way out because... I just could not fathom flying to Ireland for a game. I'm not much of a plane guy. I'm like you.
Not that I don't like flying. I just don't like being cramped up in a space for seven hours or whatever it would have been. How'd you get there, Bob? Commercial or private? Commercial. Private. Come on. You've flown on private planes left and right. No, that's not happening. I thought you and Art would fly together on this private plane. No, we're not doing that.
So commercial, who'd you fly with? Delta. I mean...
doing like persons people my wife oh you did yeah that must have been great it was a good trip yeah there were a lot i heard i heard pomp was perusing around four or five in am you know he was not you you listen when you go you got to enjoy what you got to enjoy right you got to be out there and enjoying it i agree whatever city i'm in i made that a point when i started covering the penguins in 97
I don't know how long I'm going to be doing this, but if I'm in Chicago or San Francisco or Vancouver, I'm going to go out and see the city and enjoy it. I'm not going to sit there and stay in the arena like Molinari used to do after the morning skate, to sit there in the arena.
What are we doing? You've got a great trip there. It's being paid for by your company. Go out and take advantage of it.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of Belichick's voting controversy for future coaches?
You know, I used to tap dance. Did you know that? What? Yeah.
Did you know this, Limit? I think I do. Yeah. You had your own tap dancing shoes? Oh, wait. I think we did talk about this. Yeah, we did. Fred Astaire.
I enjoyed it. I thought it was fun. Tried it and liked it. What a good talent to have, Bob. Could you still do it? Minimally. Just like if you played a piano and you hadn't done it for many years, you could still do it, but it's not the same. Right. Yes.
My daughter tap dances, takes tap dance classes.
Kabali played the viola as a kid.
My boy does, and I've never seen him practice once.
I mean, it's a natural thing. He just picks it up and starts playing. Oh, I said, do you even know? He's a prodigy. They give classes at school.
He's a viola prodigy. Every Wednesday, he has to bring his violin, and it's like, do you ever practice? I'm like, do you even know how to use it? He goes, yeah. I'm like, no, you don't. Did you play an instrument as a kid? I was a trumpet. Very, very often. Very bad. He's one of those guys.
He played football at halftime, turned into a trumpet player, went into the band. Eighth grade.
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Chapter 5: What are the opinions on Mike McCarthy's potential as a Steelers coach?
I can fake it, you know, I faked Mr. Schroeder, the teacher. But we went to a competition, Bob, and it came time for my little part. And it was... Instead of trying to do it, I think that would have been worse than just pure silence. I froze. He had a music teacher named Schroeder. Just like your mom and dad in the audience watching. Proud moment of Joe Starkey's debut and there was nothing.
There was nothing. Just a frozen person. Anywho. Yeah, let's see this transition. What do you think of Belichick? How did Dulac vote? That's my question. Was Dulac one of the ones who didn't vote for him or no?
Do you think people should be transparent with that? I think people should know. Absolutely. If you're going to like to vote, then you should put out what you vote.
Because if you're transparent, you can't hide behind a, I just don't like him. That's why I'm not going to vote. The potential Bill Pulley and allegedly, potentially, allegedly Tony Dungy just because they couldn't beat him. It's Toyota Truck Month. Time to get a truck that works as hard as you do. Tacoma. Tundra. Built for the worksite. Ready for the trail.
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This is the same kind of pettiness, jealousy, and everything else that's ruined the Baseball Hall of Fame now has made the Pro Football Hall of Fame a laughingstock. In case you didn't know out there, Bill Belichick, last night ESPN broke the story. He only received 80 or didn't get the necessary 80% of the vote. So about 10 people or so did not vote for Bill blanking Belichick.
as a first ballot hall of famer and they kind of pulled off a miracle because for the first time in history everybody's on bill belichick's side today everybody's backing him he's no longer the villain right is there anybody saying
that he should that's right i don't i haven't seen one person say i think even people who hate him and i don't really like him they're gonna delay his you know entry because of what spy gate yeah yeah okay fine but the question still remains is he a hall of famer or is he not take your emotions out of it take everything away all the subjective stuff whatever you want he's a first ballot hall of john madden's won like 50 games and he's in the hall of
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Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to the Steelers' need for a new voice in coaching?
Dan Fouts is in there. Bill Polian, who kept getting beaten by Belichick for a while until the tables turned a little bit with Indy. He said, Bob. Polian said he claimed ESPN called him. Were you one of the guys, or did you spearhead this thing? He said he could not remember with 100% certainty if he voted for Belichick for the Hall of Fame. He should lose his vote right now.
Yeah, if you don't know your vote. I mean, you know who you're voting. I guarantee he knew just because of his history with him. He knew exactly. He was probably quick to say no and put it in as hard as he can with his pencil.
You know, I... Why didn't you replace Ed Bouchette as the Hall of Fame voter from the city? Jerry's the dean. You should have argued for him. Hey, by the way, I got a text from Ed the other day. What'd it say? He said, hey, good story. I'm like, thanks. And I said, glad to know you're still alive. Did you see? That's a goofy Facebook post that put Ed's picture up and said, RIP Ed Boucher. No.
I saw that.
I'm like, what? As soon as I saw it, I said, this can't be right.
This is like this guy's gimmick. He just puts up people's ā you scroll down a little bit. What a nice gimmick. You'd be surprised how many people believe it. What a nice gimmick if you remember somebody's family and happened to see that.
You could cause someone a crash. Who knows what the reaction would be.
And I said, glad to see you're still alive. You're welcome. Don't mistake me. Jerry does a fabulous job. I said that tongue in cheek. But I do wonder if he was one of the guys who voted against him. I have no idea. This broke after I left yesterday. What limits? Oh, I was actually yawning. Oh. But no, Belichick should not have gotten in on the first ballot because he cheated.
Is he a Hall of Fame coach or not? Whoa, he's got the intern dom take on this one. Is he a Hall of Famer or not? There's no integrity clause limits. It is a joke. He should have been a first ballot Hall of Famer. But I did chuckle a little bit when I saw he wasn't. You can't cheat. None of these guys should be in the Hall of Famer.
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Chapter 7: What factors influence the Steelers' quarterback decision moving forward?
That is amazing. Jason White. We should call that the Jason White fathead. What? The Jason White fathead. Is there one? Well, I'm just saying.
Jason White, he voted for him over Larry Fitz. Yeah, that's right. That's great. So what's the moral of this story? Whose fault is this? What needs to change? I don't think the Football Hall of Fame is ever going to be looked at the same.
Well, I mean, you're not supposed to bring your own subjective feelings about a person into it. And obviously people did. Right. So that's to me where it has to start. You just can't do that. And if you're going to do that, then you should be reprimanded in some way because it doesn't make any sense.
And it makes everything look bad. I know it's not part of it, but I think all morality clauses should be just tossed out.
Yes. Because we don't know what the people really are. And I felt the same about Bonds and all those guys in the baseball part of this. You know, if they're allowed to play, if the league says, yes, you're good to play, we know what's going on, you're good to play, we're going to celebrate it, we're going to profit by it, then therefore put them in the Hall of Fame based strictly on resume.
I don't even want to know about what they do in their personal time.
What if Bonds comes back, signs a one-day contract just to start the clock over again so he can be put back on the ballot? Are you allowed to do that? It's such a joke that those guys aren't in. And yet, Jose Canseco said he personally injected Pudge Rodriguez and they put Pudge Rodriguez in. Oh, and then the other thing is trash can Beltran, Carlos Beltran. He gets in, Bob.
They blatantly cheated to win a World Series, but all these guys are like, oh, you know, steroids bad.
blatantly ripping off a World Series forgivable, right? Yeah, I mean, it's the same concept, right? There's stuff there, but if you look at the resume and just make... The league has to... If this is the case, then the league has to do a better job.
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Chapter 8: What predictions are made about the future of the Steelers under McCarthy?
So I'm making Bob do it. How about if he says no? We can't out him like that. You can't out him like that, Bob. Why don't they have to reveal their vote like baseball does, doesn't it? Or is that a choice? No, they choose to. Most of them choose to.
Here's what needs to happen. I think if you're going to make the vote, then you should be responsible for answering the question why or why not.
I agree. Gary Myers, one of the voters, said, why do people want the voters' names revealed? To egg their houses? No. To ask them why the hell they didn't vote for Belichick. You need to be accountable to your vote. You know what I feel bad about? Speaking about doxing people. I feel bad for the people living at 1137 Greenfield Avenue right now.
They're just driving by. People are taking pictures. They're going out for selfies. Knocking on the door. Hello, Mrs. McCarthy. Are you in there?
They moved out 25 years ago. I'm telling you, though. He won the news conference regardless of the football stuff later. And... He's an easy guy to like. Genuine. Seems like a very genuine guy. But that only takes you so far, right? That only takes you so far.
But if he gets off to a 2-0, 3-0 start, and if Will Howard's the quarterback, like I told him the other day, they'll cancel the season after three days and just have a parade. They'll start at 11.37. You know, I was never a big need-a-new-voice guy in the building. I'm like, so much turnover. But now I understand it after seeing that. It just had a different vibe to it.
And I think the organization probably did need a new voice. Do you think it's going to work? I don't. Which works, Super Bowl? Work would be a Super Bowl, but I think work for Art would be at least win a playoff game next season or the year after, I would think. I mean, that's what Art wants. I don't think it's going to work. Do you? The question is, what is the priority?
Finding the quarterback or winning next year? I think you know the answer to that.
Both would be the answer.
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