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Chapter 1: What is the significance of the USA winning gold in hockey?
And it's Wierenski. Now Jack Hughes puts it around the car. United States with numbers. Block across and comes. Jack Hughes wins it. The golden goal for the United States. For the first time since the 1980 miracle, the United States takes the gold.
Oh, man. Kenny Albert on the call. Him and Edzo were great. And so was the American hockey team. What a moment. What a game. Bob's going to be a little bit delayed today, but he will be in at 1130. We have an incredible Ron Cook fathead across from me. You got to go to YouTube and watch the show today. Bob and Ron, I'm doing the show with two cardboard cutouts, not just one.
My friend City Limits. To my left, all is well in your world. I like the USA cap on your head today. It's a beauty. Is it fresh or just something you brought out, dusted off for the occasion?
I dusted it off. This is one I've had for a while, Joe. I've had this hat for a long time, and I'm wearing a Jake Gensel penguin jersey that I brought out from the back of the closet for today.
Man, how about him? How about them? How about that? What a hockey game. And I'll tell you, it was big enough for me where I had a tee time limits in Florida. You know, I was in Florida. It was 80 degrees yesterday in Florida. I had a tee time at 7, I think 15 a.m. at a place called Jacaranda Golf Club.
And I thought after I played two rounds at Tiburon Saturday, they give you the second one for half price way over in Fort Myers and Ron Cook territory.
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Chapter 2: What memorable moments from the game are highlighted?
I thought, what am I doing? Even though I'm in Florida and even though I have a tee time, I've got to watch this hockey game. So I sat in a chair at the Fairfield Inn in Fort Lauderdale and watched one of the greatest sports spectacles of my life unfold. I mean, that was legendary stuff, memorable stuff, really from both teams. I mean, it was a phenomenal experience.
Hockey game, especially I felt like starting midway through the second period. It was just manic. And then the third period and then overtime three on three overtime, even though you don't like it limits. I bet you weren't complaining after that one, were you? Yes, actually I was. You were complaining after.
Not that they won, but I still don't like the format. I'm not changing my opinion based on the fact that they won. I won't be at John Cooper.
The format was great. Well, how's he changing? He still likes five on five, right? He didn't change his opinion either. He's with you. You're with Cooper. Cooper's with you. No three on three overtime. That's correct. There you go. So much to talk about from that game. That I have formulated 10 questions for you and our loyal listeners, Limits. Are you ready for this? Yes. 412-928-9370.
You want to weigh in on any and all of this. And, you know, I spent a lot of the weekend just considering and thinking about Two of the greatest moments in American sports history. Obviously, the Miracle on Ice team, that was on the front burner for obvious reasons going into Sunday's game. 46 years later, looking for that first gold since the Miracle on Ice.
I know they still had to beat the Finns after that, but since that year. And also, Bill Mazeroski's home run. To beat the damn Yankees in 1960. That's a top five, in my opinion, sports moment in the history of the country. I think it's Pittsburgh's greatest sports moment with the immaculate reception slightly behind. We're going to talk about that later.
But for obvious reasons there, too, with the passing of the great Bill Mazeroski. So just two landmark events in our history were on my mind and I'm sure on a lot of your minds all weekend. We're going to get to both those topics. But let's start with hockey. First gold since 1980. Jack Hughes with the winner. I was so glad that there were three great goals in the game.
You know, there was nothing fluky or weird about it. Connor Hellebuck was ridiculous. One of the great performances ever. But we start with this question limits. What was the coolest part of all of this? And this is a subjective thing. I mean, other than the obvious, winning the game itself, yes, was the coolest part. Beating Canada for so many millions was the coolest part.
But after the obvious, what was it? And for me, and I'm sure a lot of you, It was the tribute to Johnny Gaudreau and his kids being on the ice for a team photograph. The players skating around with Gaudreau's number 13 jersey. That was, my God, if you didn't have tears rising, then I worry about you if you have a pulse.
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Chapter 3: How does the absence of Sidney Crosby impact Team USA?
You have to go for it in this three-on-three. You know, it's live by the sword, maybe die by the sword. And I don't blame McCarr or McDavid. They went for it. You can't sit back like Sweden did. Was it Sweden that the U.S. went to overtime with, right? And the shots were like 5-0 or something.
Sweden just wanted to play it like they sometimes do in the NHL, where all you do is try and keep possession and basically play defensively in overtime. You got to go for it. Makar went for it. He swung for a homer. He missed. I don't know how this is playing in Canada today, but... Because he sort of got victimized on the first goal too. And McDavid was on the ice for the first goal too.
But I don't think they should be considered villains. Maybe that's my second question here. I honestly think that McCarr especially and McDavid were going for the win. They were going for the kill in overtime. And the Americans took advantage of it. And that's how it goes in three on three. That's just how it goes. So I don't think that there were goats in this game. Only heroes.
Only heroes limits, in my opinion. And man, on that final play, what a beautiful pass. And then a great shot. A great shot. Won it.
I think there's one goat. Who? There's one. Nathan McKinnon. Wide open net that he misses against Hellebuck. It was the best chance that he could possibly have. Then he says afterward about Team Canada losing. You could tell who was the best team out there.
Just kind of the sore loser mentality that I felt bad for that stuffed animal when he was handed to it and what potentially was going to happen to the stuffed animal.
Yeah.
On the ice.
I mean, I guess you could look at him that way. But it was mostly Hellebuck for me who stole the show rather than anybody. Maybe he ā well, that was a bad miss. And then the incredible stick save, maybe the greatest save in Olympic history by Hellebuck. So ā
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the three-on-three overtime format?
To which I would always respond, shouldn't we wait and see what happens with the game first? Like, oh, I don't know. Who wins? That seems like an important detail. And I realize everybody's got a job to do. But especially now, we have the means by which to do it in an awful hurry. We really do. So this was just ridiculous.
And then and then I thought I briefly thought tying our two stories together limits that Hellebuck was the most obvious MVP since Bill Mazeroski in 1960. And then I remembered he didn't win the MVP in 1960. Nope. Jerry Richardson, the shortstop for the Yankees. The only guy in history to ever win World Series MVP on a losing team. And that was ridiculous. Think about that.
It would be like if they chose an MVP from the Immaculate Reception game and Franco didn't win it. Yeah, you know what? Jack Tatum had a really good game. Yeah, Jack Tatum was good. Kenny Stabler, he had that touchdown before the Immaculate Reception. What are we doing here?
I feel like retroactively going back to 1960 and yelling at Ron Cook and whoever else was covering that game in the press box. That's what I feel. That's what I feel like doing. What the hell are you doing? You just watched a guy hit one of the still maybe the greatest home run. I think the greatest home run in baseball history. In baseball history.
And you didn't choose him as the MVP of the series.
Limits. I don't care what he did previously in those six games. He was pretty good. He hit a homer in another game, too. He did. I think it was game one. And we know how good he was defensively in that series, too. You give the MVP to the most obvious choice. Don't overthink it. Don't make it some decision where, oh, well, I know the Yankees outscored them by this many runs, though.
Jerry Richardson is the owner of the character, the former owner of the character. Somebody. It's Bobby Richardson got the MVP of that series, not Jerry. Who cares? You should have checked on me. You're the beat writer. Yeah, who cares is right. How could anybody? And I realize in 1960, they didn't have iPhones, right? So they couldn't get it in quick.
I think you kind of whoever invented this rule millions of years ago, whether it's Super Bowl, World Series, Conn Smythe, whatever it is. Yeah, we're going to have to ask you after the first quarter of the Super Bowl. or we're going to have to ask you during the fourth quarter, or we're going to have to ask you after the second period of game seven. Get out of here.
Wait till the series is over, you idiots.
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Chapter 5: What were Connor Hellebuyck's stats in the tournament?
Hellebuyck. 131 saves on 137 shots. 960 save per set. Those are insane numbers, especially in this kind of format. You've got to wait until the game's over. Nothing against McDavid. He had a good tournament. But he's not the MVP of this tournament.
Chapter 6: Why is Connor McDavid not considered the MVP of the tournament?
Sorry, he just isn't.
No, he was minus three in the last two games. Over the last two games, he was minus three. He was on the ice for both goals yesterday. And Connor Hellebuck was maybe the best, I don't know, Bob, why can't they wait? Josh Yowie put something out there on Twitter. He wondered if it was is it about the sponsorship?
Like, do they need to know early that who's ever sponsoring the MVP or why in the world in this age of instant communication?
Chapter 7: What are the implications of MVP voting timing in hockey?
Why do we have to have this after the first period? Why can't why can't the voters vote by phone right at the buzzer?
Yeah, I don't know why. I think that's a ridiculous rule. I never heard of it. This is the first time I've heard of it, and I thought, you're right. You could have said Bennington or anybody for that matter. How about if you gave it to McDavid? How about if he turned the puck over twice in egregiously bad plays and they lose because of it? He's still your MVP?
They should be able to wait until the end of the game.
Chapter 8: How did the U.S. win the gold medal game against Canada?
Apparently so.
And by the way, I didn't really and I don't know how this is playing in Canada today. I don't. Whether they're all up in arms and whether people are being vilified for this McDavid or McCarr. I texted somebody before overtime. I said, you got it in this three on three. You have to be aggressive and try to win right away. You can't be like Sweden against the US the other day and play possum.
You can't do it. The rope-a-dope is not going to work here. You got to go for it. McCarr was this close, and my fingers are about two inches apart from getting a two-on-oh on that play. Instead, it goes the other way. McDavid was trying to beat tons of people. He's Connor McDavid. If before overtime he tells me, listen, I'm going to take some chances here and try and beat some people, I say go.
So I'm not blaming them. It was more about what the Americans did on both goals, by the way. The Boldy goal was phenomenal. It's more about what they did than what Canada didn't do. Do you agree on that?
Yes, and if you make a high-stakes attempt and it doesn't work, in three-on-three, you're going to have to rely on your goaltender to make a big save. Now, having looked at that play from above, Jack Hughes was coming down. There was someone from Canada, I couldn't tell who it was, who was near him but didn't completely cover him. And I got to get, you know what, as good as that goal was.
That may have been McCarr. It may have been. Zach Wierenski, the play he made to get the puck to him, where he did. First of all, he had to fend off a player. Yeah, and he feathered that pass. Right, he didn't have to do anything but just continue his stride, right on stride. That's Wierenski made the play, even though Hughes got the game-winner.
All three goals were great. It's right up there. It's a top five hockey game I've ever seen in my life.
I'll be anxious, as I always say, to see the ratings. I don't know if they've come out yet, but what do you think about 8 a.m. ? I like it, actually. I mean, what are you going to do? I loved it. I mean, let's say even here you have a 10 a.m. on a Sunday. It'll never come because you can't predict how these games are going to go and how many days will be used.
But I thought it was good as opposed to a 9 o'clock start Eastern time where you're 1 in the morning and you're still playing. I kind of like it.
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