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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Oh, yeah. It's Pomp and Joe with Tyler Kennedy. Ron, would you like to turn on your mic?
I blew the whole opening.
Let's try it again. Take two. Bring back the music limits. We'll pretend it never happened. Oh, yeah. It's time for Pomp and Joe with Tyler. Tyler Kennedy. Kennedy. Kennedy. Beautiful, Bob. You nailed it. Tyler, how are you?
I'm doing good. Actually, I have a little bone to pick with Bob. I was watching you guys yesterday. You wouldn't trade a first rounder for Vincent Trocek?
No, I would prefer two seconds. Not only that, he'll rip the Penguins if they do that. No, I'm saying that only because I think they are not as ā I think they're ahead of ā I thought this year they'd be ahead.
They show that their sort of hybrid rebuild is on path, maybe ahead, but it's not to the point where I don't think it's a Stanley Cup-ready team, so therefore I don't know if I'd do that. I would continue the path that they're doing. And if I can pluck some younger talent away from another team, somebody who may be on the outs, like a lot of teams do have ā
At this time of the year, they go with veterans and some younger guys are left off of a roster. They may be good enough to play. Artur Shilov fell into that category and so did Chinnikov. They got both of them because they were being ousted, you know, not given the kind of time they needed.
Yeah, but I would think you'd have Vince for five years, right? Like he's a younger guy that the biggest problem the Penguins are having lately is they can't win a faceoff, right? They were like... They will when Crosby comes back.
I know, but if I thought that was going to be their biggest problem this year, I would have signed up for it in a second.
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Chapter 2: What trade strategies are being considered for the Penguins?
The shootout is another big one.
You know, and people put the emphasis on the goaltending there. It's not that. It is, but they don't score. They have like seven shootout goals in 33 attempts. They're fine where they are right now. Sid's coming back. I bet he'll come back right on time. You think so, Tyler?
Yeah, you see some of the videos of him skating already. He looks pretty good. I think he's like adding a superstar at the deadline. Your superstar is just sitting out because he's injured. When you get him back, talk about a jolt to the lineup. That's a pretty good play.
Well, that's where we're going to start today. I like you going after Bob early. Are you satisfied with his answer? And Limits also said the same thing. Why don't you dump and chase and hit him behind the boards? Dump and chase.
Even Noah, have you seen the podcast with Dubas? The Penguins do it with Dubas.
And Josh. Josh. Yeah, they do a good job of that.
Yeah, and it was great. And Dubas was talking about like they were getting a lot of calls when they were struggling just before Christmas and For Skinner and Kulak. He goes, yeah, we got a lot of calls for that goalie, which was Skinner. So there's a lot of teams maybe inquiring about Skinner. So he is a trade piece. He also said he's happy with the goaltending situation right now. Yeah.
But I was very surprised that there was quite a few teams inquiring about Kulak.
their process with skinner maybe edmondson will reacquire him because they need help over there they take him over jari right now i can tell you that they're not even playing jari they got another guy in there but also skinner was playing really well back then now he did play good the other day would you trade him who skinner yeah i'd trade him in a heartbeat i just i'm pretty confident what would you expect back a second round pick
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Chapter 3: How is the Penguins' goaltending situation being evaluated?
No, I didn't.
No, I love it. No, but I'm just saying.
Are you going to punch Crowley? What's the story with that? You punch him for charity? Is that the idea? Or what's the story?
No, they want tickets to the Penguin game on Saturday against Philadelphia. And he goes, I'll leave.
Who wants tickets?
Doran and Crowley.
Crowley, okay. They want tickets to the game Saturday.
I'm not sure if Doran said, hey, we'll let you punch Crowley for the ticket. And I was like, really? So he said, I can punch him as hard as I can.
In the arm.
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Chapter 4: What recent developments are there regarding Andrew McCutcheon?
It's like if you signed a guaranteed contract. you might not do the same thing if you're fighting for another year. I feel Geno needs to keep pushing through the end of the year to, one, make more money, to really secure a spot for next year. If you sign him right now, again, you're stuck with him no matter what, even if we probably would be anyways.
I love when they make players wait and try to sign them later. Because it's pretty known he's not going anywhere else.
This was my whole thing with Pickens last year. Let him go out and prove it. They call it prove it deals, prove it. And you're the beneficiary if you let them prove it. And then you can move on from them.
It's like betting on yourself, right? You bet on yourself.
And those guys are alpha dogs. They're going to bet on themselves. And even if you're tempted to be out of line like Pickens had shown, that one year ā Very few of those kind of incidents. But do you think this is really about money at this point?
No.
I don't think he's fighting for more money. The Tyler's point the other day, I think that's still a ā I mean, it's a pride thing. You don't want to take minimum.
You can take less, but you don't have to take a minimum.
Money's always going to be some kind of factor because for Geno to get to where he needs to be, it's going to take time. It's going to take a lot of effort. That's where the money comes in. It's not like, oh, he's ā
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Chapter 5: What makes Andrew McCutcheon a significant figure in Pirates history?
No, I don't. Seriously, I don't know. I'm still hung up on this because I have said that McCutcheon, he's the most popular pirate since Stargell. He shepherded them out of 20 years in the wilderness to what was for them an iconic moment, that wild card game. It really was. Everybody who remembers it knows that. You can't overstate what it meant.
I actually think I would go for a statue of him, Bob. I actually think I would. For the same reason.
Chapter 6: What are the arguments for and against a statue for McCutcheon?
It was dormant for so long, and he was the piece that started this whole resurrection. Now, it's sad they didn't win a playoff series. They had a chance in that game five against St. Louis. What should he be doing in the statue? Just one of those iconic swings of his. I don't know. I think raising his hands, that home run, I think, against the Cardinals, that walk-off was a great moment.
Maybe that.
I don't know.
Chapter 7: How does the Pirates' roster impact McCutcheon's potential role?
Does he deserve a statue? That's a great question. I just think he represented so much in a two-decade stretch where he was the reason. He was the centerpiece of that. Right. And given how they were doing business, that was going to be hard for them to do. Can we change your mind on that, Limits, or are you steadfast? No, you can change my mind on it. Have we?
No, I think that if Dave Parker doesn't have a statue, that Andrew McCutcheon probably shouldn't.
Chapter 8: What are the implications of the Pirates' recent trades on their lineup?
I would agree with that, too. You can get carried away with the statues. I understand that point completely. I always thought Dave Parker should have been in the Hall of Fame a long time. The way it happened with him was just not right. I mean, wow, this is a tough one. Parker was an all-time favorite of mine, but if you're going to pick a statue, it's got to be Pops from that era, right?
Yeah, but he was a big part of it. Well, was Steve Blass a big part of the 71 team? I'd say so. Steve Blass was a great player and a great ambassador for the Pirates. What about a statue for him? Well, I didn't want to go down this path about all these multiple statues. Once you start bringing McCutcheon into the statue conversation, Bob, you're the one who opened the path. I understand that.
And now we're all treading down it. But again, it comes from where they were, where they got to, and how he had such a central role in what they did. That may not be good enough to get a statue. I don't know. Whatever the case, he will be remembered. They'll have an Andrew McCutcheon night where either they retire his jersey or something will happen. He'll be in their Hall of Fame. No doubt.
And I hold no blame for anybody here at this moment. I think the Pirates, at least from what we think we know, From the offseason, probably could have approached McCutcheon earlier and said, you know, this is probably not going to happen. And maybe should have invited him to Pirate Fest. I don't know. Would he have gone if he knew he wasn't going to be on the team? I don't know.
It doesn't matter now. I don't think they did anything egregiously wrong. He certainly didn't. The only thing I think they did was they kept him in the lurch for all that time. They could have figured this out. Yeah, it seemed like it. It seemed like it, yeah. If he has a great year, I am not blaming him. Let's sign that right now. That fictional contract right now limits.
If he has a great year, you're not going to criticize the Pirates. I'm not. No, I will because I wanted them to sign him out to the bench and just be a bench bat. and just be the 25th or 26th guy on the roster. I won't completely pound the desk and be all mad about it, but yeah, I still thought that he had a little bit of a role here. Not a huge role, just a little bit of a role.
Doing what? Doing what? Just sitting on the bench because he's not your DH. He can't play a position. And he won't play a position.
You don't have a guy who can't play a position. Ozuna can't play defense. I think he's more valuable than whoever the hell they just got in the Kyle Nicholas trade. No, not Jake Mangum. Who's the 26th guy? Nick York or Emmanuel Valdez. I would rather have McCutcheon. That's what Colin Beasley told us. It's likely Nick York and Valdez is the last two guys on the bench.
But again, they both can do different things that Andrew at this point couldn't do. Right, but if you're talking about bouncing around the infield, Gonzalez can play third base, shortstop, second base. Triolo can play second base, shortstop, third base. I've never seen a team that has two guys who can't play a position.
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