Canadian GP Driver Rankings: Did we get them right?
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What are the main themes of the Canadian Grand Prix Driver Rankings?
The Athletic. The race is on and it's time for the first in a new regular series of episodes where we talk driver rankings after each Grand Prix and take your questions on what I was thinking. What did I get right? What did I get wrong? And what's the methodology used? I'm Ed Straw and joining me to take charge of the grilling is Glenn Freeman. Welcome to the very first of our Driver Ranking podcasts, all about the Canadian Grand Prix. And joining me as the first in a rotating cast of people who will be my interrogators on behalf of the Race Members Club, who have fired questions at me, it's Glenn Freeman. Do you feel privileged, Glenn, to be first up to attack me?
hugely privileged any chance to attack you has to be grabbed with both hands so i'm looking forward to that but i'm also looking forward to representing our members as you mentioned there they've been questioning you on your rankings and the way you rate the drivers for quite a long time now but we we want to bring it out into the open and have these debates uh for more people to hear how wrong you are basically at every opportunity ed
Yes, well, I give them plenty of opportunity to do that, but it's always interesting to talk through how it works. As this is the first episode that we're doing this, it's probably worth us very, very briefly talking about the methodology, which is, it's a bit of an inexact science because every driver's weekend is a little bit different. Everybody's got different cars, et cetera. There's different missions. So the main things are it reflects the full weekend performance. So I consider everything qualifying the race. Qualifying, I usually call lap zero of the race. And the reason for that is... If I was to qualify on pole and lead from start to finish and Glenn were to qualify 21st and charge through to second, Glenn has actually had a better race.
But you have to factor in qualifying and I have had the better weekend. That's the sort of principle of it. And you'll consider mistakes.
What methodology is used for ranking F1 drivers?
You'll consider underlying speed. You'll consider execution. Mistakes often carry quite a heavy toll for me. So that's the kind of basics.
Yeah, I think as we do a few more of these and other people get to challenge you and take you on in these little duels, people get a better understanding maybe of what to look for and what sort of things can get a driver marked up or down from you. Something I wanted to add is obviously for the last couple of years, we've been doing this as a ranking from top to bottom. I was going to say 1 to 20, but now it's 1 to 22. That moved us away from the old style that we had and you've done for many years where you used to give the drivers a score out of 10. Basically, people like me at this base who get to make the decisions wanted to make your life a bit more difficult. It's very easy. Lots of drivers can have a similar level of performance and you could maybe give them all a 7 out of 10 and you have a clutch of drivers where you've not really had to differentiate them.
We wanted to challenge you a bit more. We've given you the hellish task of making sure that you literally have to split every single driver, even if... It's very difficult to do. And even if it feels like some of them have had near identical levels of performance. So I would apologize to you for that, Ed. But for us, I think it makes it more fun.
And it does reflect the fact that the standard at which Grand Prix drivers operate is extremely high. The difference between the best driver on the grid and the worst driver is actually not that big. So very often, if you have it purely on a, say, rating out of 10, you get a lot of people clustered in the middle. There's a lot of sort of six, sevens. seven and a half, eight out of 10, because they're all doing a very, very good job. And you tend not to use too much of the lower reaches because everybody is pretty competent. I would say, well, everyone is more than competent in F1. So it's often is worth bearing in mind that the difference between say P5 and P20 in the list in terms of actual performance,
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the main themes of the Canadian Grand Prix Driver Rankings?
0:02–1:59
2
What methodology is used for ranking F1 drivers?
1:59–4:03
3
How did Lewis Hamilton perform in the Canadian GP?
4:03–5:54
4
What factors led to Oscar Piastri's low ranking?
5:54–7:01
5
Why did George Russell rank first in the driver rankings?
7:01–8:14
6
What were the reasons behind Max Verstappen's ranking?
8:14–12:37
7
How did the McLaren drivers perform during the race?
12:37–18:03
8
What insights were shared about the overall driver performance in F1?
18:03–47:38
Speakers
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