Never Violate the Rule of Diversification (Hour 1)

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Dave Ramsey 0:27
Live from the headquarters of Ramsey Solutions, it's the Ramsey Show, where debt is dumb, cash is king, and the paid-off home mortgage has taken the place of the BMW as the status symbol of choice. We help people build wealth, do work that they actually love and that has meaning, create real, amazing, natural relationships. Christina Ellis, Ramsey Personality, best-selling author, is my co-host today as we answer your questions. The phone number is 888-825-5225. That's 888-825-5225. Tom starts us off this hour in Pittsburgh. Hey, Tom, what's up, buddy?

What challenges does transitioning from self-employment to a corporate job present?

Dave Ramsey 1:08
Hey, Dave, thank you so much for taking my call. I appreciate it.
Tom (Caller) 1:10
Sure.
Dave Ramsey 1:11
How can we help?
Tom (Caller) 1:13
Hey, my question is, I've been self-employed for seven years now, and I'm just looking to make a transition. out of what I currently do. The business climate's just becoming more and more difficult to operate in, more and more competitors, and I'm looking to scale myself out of what I do now and transition back into working for someone else. And I've tried and made a couple attempts, but just find it to be pretty challenging.
Dave Ramsey 1:37
Okay. What were the speed bumps?
Tom (Caller) 1:42
It seems difficult to get hired because I have limited experience. My background's in management accounting. I only have about two years of relevant field experience in the accounting world, but I've had my own business now for seven years, going on eight, and it just seems to be difficult to get recognized, to get hired, coming from self-employment like employers don't value the skill set that I can bring to the table.
Dave Ramsey 2:09
What were you doing? What kind of business?
Tom (Caller) 2:11
Property maintenance and landscape installation.
Dave Ramsey 2:15
Okay.
Christina Ellis 2:15
How many employers have you reached out to at this point?
Tom (Caller) 2:21
I've been through the interview process about six times. Applications, probably 20 to 30.
Dave Ramsey 2:28
What size companies?
Tom (Caller) 2:31
Mainly medium size.
Dave Ramsey 2:33
What are you applying for?
Tom (Caller) 2:36
Project manager positions.
Dave Ramsey 2:39
Okay.
Okay.
Dave Ramsey 2:41
Well, it sounds to me like you have like seven years of project manager experience to me.
Tom (Caller) 2:45
I have seven years of project management experience. Now it's smaller scale. I mean, I'm doing $10,000 jobs, not $10 million jobs. It doesn't matter.
Dave Ramsey 2:54
If you put a task in front of you and you map out the incremental details to accomplish the task and you push the task through on schedule, that's called project management. It's not rocket science.

How can working during college impact your future career?

Dave Ramsey 3:04
I agree. So maybe... You need to think about how to sell the fact that how these skills are transferable, A, in the initial contact and B, in the actual interview itself. And then C, what you're looking for is a business that has an entrepreneurial enough bent. Like, for instance, I mean, I own this business, and I have 1,200 employees, so I'm a fairly large company. But I would recognize, or one of our leaders would recognize, that what you've been doing is project management. I mean, you may not have certification at the PM3 level or something, but, I mean, you're knocking stuff out. And so, you know, like when we sit down, same thing. What we're looking for is the skill level. that is already in existence, and can you apply that in the workplace?
Dave Ramsey 3:57
If they are so stupid and corporate that they're looking for some kind of a, the fact that you've done the exact thing that they want done at five other places working for corporate America, you probably don't want to work there anyway. You're going to go crazy.
Tom (Caller) 4:10
I think you're right. You're probably right. I'm just so used to being in my own world, my own realm of things, and managing my own show. You're probably right.
Dave Ramsey 4:19
But in other words, if they've got a little bit of an entrepreneurial flair, they would see these transferable skills.
Christina Ellis 4:26
Yeah, and that's been my journey. I mean, I was an entrepreneur for 10 years before I came here to Ramsey.
Dave Ramsey 4:29
Oh, yeah, and then you went to work here. Who knew?
Christina Ellis 4:31
Yeah, right.
Dave Ramsey 4:32
Good point.
Christina Ellis 4:32
And I appreciate that one of the core values here is having a self-employed mentality. It's been a great transition because I'm now at a company that values that skill set, and it's been able to translate really well.
Dave Ramsey 4:42
More than value, we kind of just expect you to do it.

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