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The Ramsey Show

Stop Starting Over and Break the Cycle for Good

26 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

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Normal is broke and common sense is weird. So we're here to help you transform your life from the Ramsey Network in the Fairwinds Credit Union Studio. This is The Ramsey Show. And I am Rachel Cruz hosting this hour with a good friend and my other co-host at Smart Money Happy Hour, George Camel.

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Excited to be with you.

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Always fun, George.

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New hairdo, by the way. If you're watching on YouTube, I want to call it out. The extensions are gone if you've been following the journey of Rachel's hair.

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We chop the hair. I change my hair every six months. So yeah, this is the new and approved. We'll see.

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I look the same as I did four years ago.

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George hasn't changed one bit.

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A man of consistency.

Chapter 2: How can I keep my husband committed to paying off debt?

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Our rent is a little bit over $3,000. That includes all our utilities and everything in it. Are you working, Hannah, at all? Yeah, I work from home and stay home with our kids. Okay, how much do you bring in a month? I only bring home... about $1,000 a paycheck, but that's after my insurance and everything. How many paychecks? Do you get two paychecks a month, or are you paid weekly?

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Two paychecks a month.

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And that's on top of the $7,500, or is that combined?

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No, that's included in it. So his base is $70,000, and then I get the $2,000, and then he'll get commission and bonuses.

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Got it. Okay, so $7,500 plus is what we're working with. Have you guys tried EveryDollar, our budgeting app, yet?

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Oh, we did a while ago.

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OK, I think we need to restart this process with a whole different mindset that we are doing this together. We are going to cut up the credit cards. We're going to freeze our credit because so far you've given yourself every opportunity to take a shortcut to go backwards. And so if you make the only path forwards, you will move forward.

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Yeah. I mean, where I'm at, where I just kind of want to throw everything at this and get it over with, because I feel like we're paying about a thousand. Well, I know that we're paying over a thousand dollars a month at credit cards every single month. And I just want to get it over with.

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Right.

Chapter 3: What challenges have they faced in their financial journey?

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$25 Forever requires customers to remain active on Boost Mobile Unlimited plan. Up next, we have Savannah in Sacramento, California. Hi, Savannah. Welcome to the show. Hi there. Hello, hello. How can we help? So I'm a mom of two little girls, and I work two full-time jobs, and I go to school full-time, and I'm in about $37,000 of debt, and that includes my car and everything.

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And I'm stuck in this loop of cash advances and everything, and so when I get paid, I feel like I have nothing, and it goes by so quickly, and I just don't know how to get out of this. Right. I want to get my debt, you know, back to zero and not have to worry about any of this anymore. Yeah, absolutely. Are you are you single, Savannah? Yes. Okay. And you have your two girls. How old are they?

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I have a seven year old and a two year old. Oh, wow. Okay. And you said you're working two jobs. Is there one that's full time and then one is part time? Are they both part time? No, they're both full-time. I work both of them at the same exact time. One's remote and one's in office, and I just do both at the same time.

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Whoa, and you're in school full-time?

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Yes, and I'm in school full-time.

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How many hours in a day do you have? Do you have more than us?

Chapter 4: How can I effectively communicate financial expectations with my spouse?

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I love having a stable paycheck. I love having investments made into my account automatically. And there's no other way to rather do it. Yep. There's just the idea of me... Like you're telling me to pay off the $7,000, right? Which I know is a great idea.

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The idea of me losing $7,000 in cash and it goes into my car, I know it's a good idea, but it feels wrong because in my head, if I don't save, I feel like I'm failing. Right. Because at that point, from where your psychology is, is that saving is the only thing you should do with money. And out of good reason, because you're looking at your parents and like, holy crap, they have nothing.

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They're not going to, they worked so hard, but now they have nothing to show for it at retirement. But here's the deal, Jordan. There's two other parts of money that you have to engage in to have a holistic, healthy financial picture. Giving and and spending, okay? So you may go through seasons where you're gonna be saving more.

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Maybe you and your soon-to-be fiance, soon-to-be wife, you're saving up for that down payment on a home and you guys are really like, hey, we're gonna pull back on lifestyle to really get that down payment. That's great. But over the course of your life, Jordan, if you have this mentality the rest of your life, that's where money can become an idol. You will hold onto it so tightly and

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And have this sense of security that this is going to be your answer. And then you're going to look up and realize, oh, my gosh, I have wasted my whole life because fear has driven my financial decisions. Not a healthy balance of all of this.

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I think the budget is your answer. Budget for the fun stuff. Budget for some giving. Yes. And budget for the saving.

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Yes.

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Yes. And realize I'm young. I got a lot of time on my hands. You're doing so good.

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And Jordan, go on RamseySolutions.com and pull up the investment calculator and put in what you have right now with investments at 24. And just do the math. If you never put another dime in, what you'll have at retirement.

Chapter 5: How can I break free from a cycle of debt?

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You're always like waiting for the other shoe to drop. That might be part of it.

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I came from a communist country, so that probably had a lot to do with it. Oh, yeah. Where'd you come from?

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Chapter 6: What should I prioritize: paying off collections or settling debt?

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Well, I was from Vietnam. My mom, we came to Vietnam after the war and everything. Yes. I mean, I was a little kid, but it was just like years after. Sure.

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Chapter 7: How can I manage my finances while raising children?

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We lived really poor, so I guess that I can't switch it off. My brother's the same way. Yeah. Yeah. which makes sense, right? When you can connect those dots, like you're not crazy, right? I mean, what you've lived through and experienced, you're like, there's no way I wanna go back to that.

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But again, that's a good motivator to get you to a place of security and safety with money, which is what's happened. So now, not still depending on that same wiring is what's gonna be key. So rewiring some of that and having some peace with your money and enjoyment definitely will be the thing to be working on.

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Chapter 8: What should I consider before financing a business?

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Today's question comes from Grayson in Maine. I'm having trouble with baby step two. I've saved the thousand dollar emergency fund, but can't seem to make any headway on paying off our debt. I have three daughters under 13. It's difficult for me to go fully scorched earth when I want to still give them a decent childhood and provide the things they need. How can I stop feeling stuck?

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What a good dad.

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The dad guilt. It's real.

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Wow. Okay, so I think the issue here is we are pinning getting out of debt and not spending money to bad childhood. And I think you can have a great childhood and not buy your way into it.

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And getting out of debt doesn't take their entire childhood. It may take two, three years, but not their entire childhood. And I mean, I say this about my kids. I don't know if you feel like this, George. Really what they want is you.

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