How do we find our true selves among the distractions of a noisy world? Joshua Berry shares with Kevin that being naive can help us reconnect with our innate qualities and authenticity. He explains how naivety can serve as a shield or a source of strength, allowing us to foster optimism and genuine innovation in our personal and professional lives. Kevin and Joshua also explore the tensions between being pragmatic and naive, highlighting how these qualities are not mutually exclusive but rather complementary. Joshua also introduces four questions that can help individuals examine their beliefs and make intentional choices - Where did you learn that belief? Is that belief absolutely true? What do you gain by holding that belief? What do you lose by holding that belief? Listen For 00:00 Introduction 01:18 Guest Introduction: Joshua Berry 03:16 Joshua's Journey 05:02 Definition of Naive 08:03 Pragmatic vs. Naive 10:17 Importance of True Self 18:19 Four Questions on Beliefs 20:04 Impact of Beliefs on Leadership 24:35 Adapting Beliefs 30:00 Joshua's Reading Interests 33:21 Closing Remarks Meet Joshua Joshua's Story: Joshua Berry is the author of Dare to Be Naive: How to Find Your True Self in a Noisy World. He is a world-class facilitator of change. As an author, speaker, entrepreneur, and director of Econic, Joshua has spent the last two decades evolving the what, who, and why of Fortune 500 companies and venture-backed startups. Along with his team, Joshua has sparked change in organizations like US Bank, John Deere, Procter & Gamble, Nelnet, Ameritas, Omaha Public Power District, Farm Credit Services of America, and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Nebraska, among others. https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshberrygphr http://econic.co/ http://joshuaberry.com/ This Episode is brought to you by... The Long-Distance Team. Remote leadership experts, Kevin Eikenberry and Wayne Turmel, help leaders navigate the new world of remote and hybrid teams to design the culture they desire for their teams and organizations in their new book! Book Recommendations Dare to Be Naive: How to Find Your True Self in a Noisy World by Joshua Berry Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger Bregman Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity by Peter Attia MD To Bless the Space Between Us: A Book of Blessings by John O'Donohue Like this? Wisdom@Work with Chip Conley The Biases That Keep You From Leading at Your Best with Lisa Tromba Podcast Better! Sign up with Libsyn and get up to 2 months free! Use promo code: RLP Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we'd be thrilled if you'd let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here's a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group

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