How can disruption become a powerful tool to reshape your future? Patrick Leddin joins Kevin to discuss how leaders and individuals can reframe disruption as an opportunity for growth. Drawing on his collaboration with bestselling author James Patterson and research from hundreds of interviews, Patrick introduces the Positive Disruptor Loop (Discern, Behave, Achieve, and Refine) and explains how to apply it to personal decisions, team dynamics, and organizational challenges. Patrick and Kevin also discuss how our responses to disruption shape our success, why discernment and reflection are crucial leadership practices, and how embracing disruption can unlock both innovation and stability. Listen For 00:00 Change, resistance, and disruption 01:23 Guest introduction Patrick Leddin 03:30 Big idea of the book purpose plus disruption 04:32 COVID and the origins of the research 06:09 James Patterson and self disruption 08:15 Redefining disruption as opportunity 10:38 Disruption as a life skill and leadership skill 15:19 The Positive Disruptor Loop overview 16:17 Discernment choosing how to respond 18:11 Strengths and behavior in disruption 19:03 Achieving impact at multiple levels 20:31 Refinement and learning through reflection 22:46 Why discernment and reflection matter most 25:25 The five disruption roles explained 27:03 Context and conscious leadership choices 29:56 Resilience built through experience 32:03 Personal insights and fun 34:06 Where to learn more and final thoughts 35:45 Final challenge what action will you take Patrick's Story: Patrick Leddin, PhD, is the co-author with James Patterson of Disrupt Everything and Win: Take Control of Your Future. He has extensive hands-on leadership experience: in the 82nd Airborne Division as an airborne ranger infantry officer and in the private sector as a senior business consultant at KPMG Consulting and FranklinCovey. He founded and built two successful companies and is a sought-after global speaker, a top-ranked podcast host, and the author of the Wall Street Journal bestseller The 5‑Week Leadership Challenge: 35 Action Steps to Become the Leader You Were Meant to Be. While on the faculty at Vanderbilt University, he served as director of the Program of Business Studies and led the Disruption Project, a multiyear study of success in the face of disruption. https://patrickleddin.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickleddin/ https://www.facebook.com/patrick.leddin https://www.instagram.com/patrickleddin This Episode is brought to you by... Flexible Leadership is every leader's guide to greater success in a world of increasing complexity and chaos. Book Recommendations Disrupt Everything―and Win: Take Control of Your Future by James Patterson, Patrick Leddin PhD The Invisible Life of Addie LaRue by V. E. Schwab 12 Months to Live: A Jane Smith Thriller by James Patterson, Mike Lupica Like this? Leading Through Disruption with Tony Hunter The Disruption Mindset with Charlene Li The Upside of Disruption with Terence Mauri Join Our Community If you want to view our live podcast episodes, hear about new releases, or chat with others who enjoy this podcast join one of our communities below. Join the Facebook Group Join the LinkedIn Group Leave a Review If you liked this conversation, we'd be thrilled if you'd let others know by leaving a review on Apple Podcasts. Here's a quick guide for posting a review. Review on Apple: https://remarkablepodcast.com/itunes

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