Communication. So important in our lives, both professionally and personally. So complex, not only with all the platforms on which communication is possible but even more so as we are doing more "remote" communication. Katie McCleary shares with Kevin that we need to show up with the intent to listen. We need to move past asking "why are you doing this" to "tell me about how you are doing this". We can't force collaboration, so to keep moving forward we need to get curious. Key Points In this episode, Katie discusses clean and curious listening. She shares what it means to empty the human cup. She talks about listening for energy words. Meet Katie Name: Katie McCleary Her Story: Katie McCleary is the co-author (with Jennifer Edwards) of Bridge the Gap: Breakthrough Communication Tools to Transform Work Relationships from Challenging to Collaborative. She is also the founder of 916 Ink, a nonprofit that has transformed over 4,000 vulnerable youth into confident authors. Worth Mentioning: In 2015, Mashable.com named Katie one of 15 "Real Miss America's" in the nation for her work with vulnerable populations. In 2017, she won the Heart of a Hero award from PBS: KVIE's Rob on the Road Heroes & Helping Hands show. In 2018, she launched The Drive podcast, a collaboration between the American Leadership Forum and Capital Public Radio (Sacramento's NPR affiliate). This episode is brought to you by... Remarkable Masterclasses. Each masterclass is designed to help you become the remarkable leader and human you were born to be. Details on how to get on board for a specific skill or get discounts each month can be found on our website. Book Recommendations Bridge the Gap: Breakthrough Communication Tools to Transform Work Relationships From Challenging to Collaborative by Jennifer Edwards and Katie McCleary Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind by Yuval Harari The Dictionary of Obscure Sorrows by John Koenig The Moon by Whale Light: And Other Adventures Among Bats, Penguins, Crocodilians, and Whales by Diane Ackerman Related Episodes Communicate Like a Leader with Dianna Booher Connecting with Others Through Listening with Ximena Vengoechea How to Communicate Effectively with Anyone, Anywhere with Raúl Sánchez and Dan Bullock

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