Harry Maguire on the facetime with Tuchel which ended his World Cup dream

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What conversation did Harry Maguire have with Thomas Tuchel about his World Cup omission?

Gary Lineker 0:09
Hello and welcome to The Rest Is Football. On today's show, we've got Harry Maguire with us. And, well, let's say he was very open and honest about the situation of him being left out of the squad. I think you'll really enjoy it. We also talked about the football, of course, and an astonishing performance from Cape Verde. And don't forget, if you want to watch the show, just get us on Netflix.
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Gary Lineker 0:35
Alan Shearer and Joe Cole are here, and look who we've got joining us for the first time. He should, of course, be in Kansas City. We all think that. But he's not, sadly. He's here in New York with us. You've got to suffer, Oz, rather than the England squad. Are you OK, Harry?
Harry Maguire 0:49
Have you got over it now? No, I'm very good. Obviously, it was a disappointment at the time, but it's been a few weeks since then. I've been away, went to Barbados, and found myself here now with you guys, so I'm really excited for what's to come.
Gary Lineker 1:00
It's gone downhill fast, hasn't it?
Harry Maguire 1:02
nah, this is the second best place I could be. So no, actually.
Gary Lineker 1:05
We'll get into today's games in a moment, but I just want a little chat first about it. I mean, we all said, didn't we, that we thought you should be in the squad. Genuinely not. And that's probably the only nice comment you'll get from us. Was it a surprise to you?
Harry Maguire 1:20
No, it was a surprise at the time. I said straight away that it was a surprise. I was really disappointed. I thought I did enough to be in the squad. And I thought I could have helped the lads out there. I thought I would have still had a part to play on the pitch and off the pitch as well. So, no, I was disappointed at the time, but the manager's made a decision and he's gone with his 26 and it's part of football and I'll move on quick from here.
Gary Lineker 1:48
Can you tell us, did he break the news to you personally? Was it a phone call, a text, or did he not at all?
Harry Maguire 1:54
No, he speaks to everyone, to be fair, so he FaceTimes everyone. FaceTime? Yeah, it's quite an awkward call.
Gary Lineker 2:03
So when he FaceTimed you, you must have thought, must be in the squad, sure.
Harry Maguire 2:06
No, so I received a text around 9, 10 o'clock in the morning just saying, can I speak to you today at 4 o'clock? But I think Coby received the same text. So it was like, I think Luke as well, maybe he received the same text as well. So I think he's got, I think he FaceTimes everybody. It's quite a unique way to do it. It makes it harder probably for himself to see our reactions and things like that.
Gary Lineker 2:31
Yeah, it was a... Can I ask you what he said and did he give you an explanation as to why?
Harry Maguire 2:38
He really said that. He can't really give me an excuse. But I think he said that he's gone with the four lads that he got him through the qualifying in the autumn, in the autumn camps where he felt like I think it was... He felt like they did well during them six games, but he did say that he can't really give me an excuse. But listen, that's football. It was tough to take out. I did think I was going to be in the squad after the March camp and being selected in March camp for the first time under him. I felt like I did really well in both of the games and then went back to Manchester United and finished the season really, really strong. I thought I did enough to be in the squad, but like I said, he's made that decision.
Harry Maguire 3:16
He's gone with the squad and it is a strong squad.
Gary Lineker 3:18
What was your reaction when he told you?
Harry Maguire 3:20
Yeah, I was shocked more than anything.
Gary Lineker 3:22
Did you say anything to him?
Harry Maguire 3:23
Yeah, we had a few words. Did you? Yeah. Look, I'm quite a big personality. I'm experienced. But no, I think it was an honest conversation between us both. I was really disappointed. I wanted to go to the World Cup and play. I'm 33 now, so 37 at the next World Cup. It looks far away. So I wanted to go, not just play, but like I told the manager, I wasn't... demanding to go and start the games. I'd have been happy to play one minute as long as I was there with the lads. It was disappointing.
What do you think of that way of doing it? You look at Brazil, they actually do it live on television. Oh, that's weird. I mean, yeah, but to be fair... By X Factor or something.

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