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The Rest Is History

541. Heart of Darkness: Fear and Loathing in the Congo

20 Feb 2025

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0.149 - 22.254 Dominic Sandbrook

Thank you for listening to The Rest Is History. For weekly bonus episodes, ad-free listening, early access to series, and membership of our much-loved chat community, go to therestishistory.com and join the club. That is therestishistory.com. Hi, everybody. Dominic Sandbrook from The Rest Is History here.

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22.814 - 44.844 Dominic Sandbrook

Now, as you can probably tell from the noise of the pool, I am joined by a friend of the show, Anthony Scaramucci, who is on his island, surrounded by the luxurious trappings of wealth. He is, of course, the host of The Rest Is Politics US. And Anthony and I have a very special announcement. on Sunday the 30th of March.

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45.025 - 54.5 Dominic Sandbrook

Anthony is over in the UK and we have decided to do a live show together at the Theatre Royal Drury Lane in London. Haven't we, Anthony?

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54.946 - 75.813 Anthony Scaramucci

We have, you know, and thank God I'm not British because the Brits actually admire my American attitude about life. OK, but in any event, OK, it'd be the first time on stage with Dominic. I am very excited. We're going to be doing a show on U.S. political history called The Rest is Assassinations.

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76.573 - 97.443 Anthony Scaramucci

From Lincoln to JFK, but Dominic and I both know on the 30th of March, 2025, it's the 44th anniversary of the attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan. So there's not only assassinations here, which are terrible, but there's an attempted assassination, several of them, Dominic, right, throughout U.S. history.

98.204 - 104.347 Anthony Scaramucci

And so we're excited to go through this and what the impacts were on American history and global history.

104.986 - 121.797 Dominic Sandbrook

Right. And there's so many great stories. So, obviously, JFK, you and I disagree about JFK because I, of course, think it was Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone and you think differently. But there are other stories. You mentioned attempted assassinations. So, for example, FDR. FDR was almost shot before his inauguration in 1933.

122.817 - 138.286 Dominic Sandbrook

And that's an attempted assassination that really could have changed the course of history because no FDR. Does the United States still enter the Second World War? Does the story of the 20th century play out completely differently? So... There is so much to talk about, and I'm really, really looking forward to doing it. What are you looking forward to most, Anthony?

138.426 - 159.334 Anthony Scaramucci

Well, I mean, all of that, but I want to delve into a little bit of the Secret Service and some of the men in that service. Clint Hill is still alive. He was riding alongside of Jackie and John Kennedy on the 22nd of November of 1963. And we'll talk about what he saw. We'll talk about what other events. agents have written about recently.

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