537. Indicting Trump, Israeli Prisons, and Rory vs. Ed Miliband

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Alistair Campbell 0:00
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Rory Stewart 0:13
You would have a lot of grounds to prepare a case against Trump for war crimes or corruption. How would the US public react if we actually took seriously the fact that this man had broken multiple laws and that he would be under our jurisdiction? Which government of the world would do it? How much can Netanyahu continue to distance himself from this man and say that he isn't speaking from Israel so long as he leaves him in his government as the security minister?
Alistair Campbell 0:38
There is going to be an election. Netanyahu probably feels that politically he's not strong enough to do that. What does that mean, Alistair? I mean, of course he can fire him. Well, he could, but what it means in political management is he thinks his coalition falls apart.
Rory Stewart 0:51
So in other words, he has to accept the risk of not being prime minister to get rid of a man who is utterly abhorrent from his government.

What grounds exist for indicting Trump for war crimes or corruption?

Rory Stewart 0:59
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How might the US public react to Trump's legal issues?

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Alistair Campbell 3:04
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Alistair Campbell 3:14
Welcome to the Restless Politics Question Time with me, Alistair Campbell. And with me, Rory Stewart. First half of question time, we're going to cover two big issues that relate to some of the things we're always talking about. Collapse of laws and collapse of norms. And we're talking about Cuba and we're also talking about Israel. And then we're going to talk a little bit about reform and also who, I hope you've thought about it, Rory, who is the most evil handshake?
Rory Stewart 3:39
It's a disturbing question. Well, let me start you on Cuba. Anandi Mahadeo from Belfast. The US is doing to Cuba what Israel did to Gaza in the form of blockade. Why is the UK government silent? Am I allowed just a very quick explainer on Cuba and then straight back over to you? Cuba is this Caribbean island, which is only about 90 miles off the coast of Florida. In other words, it's closer to the United States than Manchester is to London. Got about 11 million people. And famously, having been very closely tied into the US economy in the 40s and 50s with sugar and casinos and tourism. In fact, my Scottish great-grandfather worked as an engineer in a sugar plantation in Cuba from 1920 to 1940 and would have been one of many, many foreigners as part of this slightly exploitative United Fruit presence in Cuba.

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