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'Daredevil: Born Again' Season 2 Premiere Instant Reactions | The Midnight Boys

25 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

5.667 - 26.455 Charles Holmes

Welcome into the Ringerverse. This is, of course, the Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are Steve, the architect almond, the builder and taker of things. Jomie, the explainer, a dinner on. You've got questions, he's got answers. Old Man Van, he of the receding resurgent hairline. Coke Baby Chuck, the 24 karat closer. Together we are known as the Midnight Boys.

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27.777 - 29.059 Charles Holmes

We'll be right back after this.

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Chapter 2: What are the initial reactions to 'Daredevil: Born Again' Season 2?

42.016 - 55.528 Charles Holmes

Okay, follow us on socials. The Midnight Boys on Insta and TikTok at The Midnight Boys Pod. Pod. It's important. It's important because The Midnight Boys Pod. That's the ad. Who stole The Midnight Boys, I wonder?

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55.789 - 69.743 Unknown

That's prime real estate. Bro, man. We went. Midnight Boys was gone. The Midnight Boys was gone. And we don't want to be the people doing the underscore and the periods. You know what I'm saying? So we had to go with The Midnight Boys Pod. But we got it. Make sure y'all follow. Save Jomie's job.

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69.983 - 80.915 Jomi Adeniran

No, I actually need people. Make sure you go follow. Like, Jomie, you've been doing incredible work on the socials. We all got our own page. Like, actually support us. You know what I'm saying? Click and subscribe. Come on, y'all.

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80.935 - 89.004 Charles Holmes

If you listen to the podcast, we expect you guys to be subscribed or to whatever, to YouTube. We expect it. It's an expectation.

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89.024 - 108.709 Jomi Adeniran

If we could get what number, because I see in a lot of comments, they like, and this is, I also just have to say this, I see in a lot of the comments, we got a Spider-Man trailer. We got a Doom trailer. Nigga's asking about Invincible. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey. If you support the pod, how many followers do we need to get to where we might give them a little invisible? Like shout it out.

109.6 - 110.801 Jomi Adeniran

Man, let's get to 15K.

Chapter 3: How does Fisk's role evolve in the new season?

110.902 - 114.866 Jomi Adeniran

If we can get to 15K, we'll give them a little Invisible love. We'll give them Invisible love, yeah.

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114.886 - 119.251 Charles Holmes

All right, come on. There was an Invisible trailer that came out? The whole season's out. The whole season's out.

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119.271 - 124.217 Unknown

The whole season's out, bro. All of Invisible. Yeah. Oh. It's back, by the way. We've never been more back.

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124.418 - 130.325 Charles Holmes

The show's amazing. Oh, you love the show. Oh, it's good. I got to check it out. So it's actually up, not the screeners. It's actually up. It's actually up.

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130.345 - 130.765 Unknown

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

130.785 - 138.875 Charles Holmes

Yeah. Hey, I'm just going to be honest with you. The shit... The shit fell off. It didn't fall off. There was a time.

138.895 - 139.256 Unknown

Okay, so listen.

139.276 - 147.607 Charles Holmes

It didn't fall off necessarily from a quality standpoint. Right. But in terms of the relevance and the anticipation of the show, it's just not the same anymore.

147.627 - 148.148 Jomi Adeniran

I think that's fair.

Chapter 4: What are the major differences between Disney+ and Netflix's Daredevil?

166.404 - 184.753 Charles Holmes

The Midnight Boys are returning to the Mushroom Kingdom. Yeah. to discuss the Super Mario Brothers Galaxy movie. That is next Wednesday. Now, we see this movie, I think. Monday. Monday. We see this movie Monday, and then Wednesday, we're back. I'm very excited about this. I'm super excited.

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184.773 - 191.542 Van Lathan

I'm so bummed that I'm going to have to miss it. You're out of here? I'm out of here. I'm on vacation. Where are you going? Where are you headed? Ireland. Ireland.

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192.023 - 215.73 Charles Holmes

Okay. Who is fourth chair, then? Who should we bring in? We need a white boy. A white boy. We need a white boy for this. Should we bring in CR? CR doesn't do cartoons. CR does not do cartoons. Who at the ringer could we bring in? Rob Mahoney. Rob Mahoney. Good posture Rob. Good posture Rob. We should see if we can get Rob to come in and sit right there straight up.

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215.71 - 223.661 Jomi Adeniran

Do you think people would, like, notice right away? Or they'd be like, oh, like, how about this? Don't say, just say it's me.

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223.681 - 228.727 Charles Holmes

We should just call him Steve the whole time. Well, it's The Ringer. So Rob's a big deal here at The Ringer.

229.248 - 234.415 Jomi Adeniran

That has nothing to do with the album. Like, some of our black listeners might be like, that doesn't look like our normal white world.

234.435 - 235.436 Van Lathan

Steve looks a little different today.

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A little different right there. On today's show, though, the Midnight Boys are giving their instant reactions to the first episode of Daredevil Born Again Season 2. Now, if you guys do not remember the story here, Daredevil was a sensation over on Netflix.

Chapter 5: How does the premiere set the stage for character development?

252.861 - 277.856 Charles Holmes

Netflix had a whole Marvel cinematic television universe, cinema, television, not cinema, of their own. There was Daredevil, Jessica Jones. Luke Cage. Iron Fist, Loom Cage, and then the Defender show. Punisher. The Punisher as well. Things kind of changed over business-wise at Disney with Disney Plus coming in, and they took those shows off of Netflix.

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278.036 - 294.098 Charles Holmes

We thought that those shows and characters were gone forever. It turns out that they are not. Jessica Jones is back. Daredevil is back. And Jon Bernthal as the Punisher is also back. Daredevil Born Again Season 1 was last year.

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294.483 - 305.794 Charles Holmes

Somebody explain to the people, before we get into season two, somebody that might be a new Midnight Boys listener, exactly what all the hubbub and confusion was about Daredevil Born Again season one.

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305.914 - 321.024 Jomi Adeniran

Originally, when the show was kind of announced to us, It was a different flavor. And the best way I can describe that flavor, if you watch She-Hulk, when Daredevil showed up on that, I think they were kind of pitching us a lighter version of Matt Murdock.

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321.485 - 344.856 Jomi Adeniran

Originally, that show, I believe, was going to be over 20 episodes and was going to be more in the procedural lane, like a law and order or a villain of the week. Matt and his new law firm. That show, it seems like, did not work. I think even some of the cast, like Vincent D'Onofrio even had come out and just was not satisfied with it.

345.137 - 359.193 Jomi Adeniran

And I think one of the reasons that a lot of people weren't satisfied with it was from a continuity standpoint, basically they got an all new cast. Like Foggy wasn't supposed to be in it. I don't think Karen was supposed to be in it that much. Yeah. They kind of retooled the whole thing.

359.233 - 378.473 Jomi Adeniran

And I believe, and y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, they basically split the seasons in two, or kind of this second season, they kind of remade it whole cloth, while the first season of Born Again, I think with some additional shooting... they kind of cobbled together something that seemed more spiritually connected to the Netflix version.

378.493 - 393.897 Unknown

If I recall correctly, they had, like, film, like, four episodes. Yeah. Then the people went and watched and said, ah, that's not, that's not cutting it. We have to go back, rehire new writers, new showrunners, the whole thing. Basically, like you said, start from scratch. I'm sure they used, I know they used some of the footage.

393.877 - 395.999 Jomi Adeniran

They used a lot of the footage that they had already shot.

Chapter 6: What are the challenges faced by Matt Murdock in Season 2?

437.448 - 456.874 Charles Holmes

pilot insofar as this is a character that everyone can't live without, but it is a high leverage pilot insofar as this is supposed to be what they wanted to do. With that backdrop, let's get into the spoiler warning for Daredevil Born Again Season 2. Steve.

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460.533 - 472.531 Steve Ahlman

We're getting ready to talk about Daredevil Born Again. You're listening to a reaction podcast.

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472.551 - 482.406 Charles Holmes

The spoilers are coming. Now, we talked a little bit about the history of the show, but Chuck is going to give you what happened in the show in the Midnight Manifest. Chuck, take it away.

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482.825 - 501.39 Jomi Adeniran

All right, this is Daredevil Born Again Season 2, directed by Aaron Moorhead and Justin Benson, written by Dario Scardapain. Daredevil intercepts a cargo ship smuggling weapons for Fisk. Following orders, the captains of the boat sink the vessel once Daredevil starts cracking heads. This starts off a race between Team Murdoch and Team Fisk to see who can get to the missing captains.

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501.37 - 517.892 Jomi Adeniran

Unfortunately, the rise of Fisk and his anti-vigilante task force has pushed Karen and Matt into the shadows, while partners like McDuffie and Cherry fight the cause from the light. A mysterious figure named Mr. Charles is sent to Fisk by Valentina to help the mayor clean up his gun-smuggling mess, but Wilson and Vanessa are suspicious of this abrasive man.

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Meanwhile, Cherry is ambushed at his apartment by the vigilante task force, who are looking for the second missing cargo ship pilot after they killed the first. Daredevil saves Cherry but has a moment of PTSD when he can sense that the old officer is about to have a heart attack. The task force members take off Daredevil's mask and almost kill him, but our devil is saved by another.

535.962 - 552.817 Jomi Adeniran

As Bullseye uses a sniper rifle to kill the officers. And that has been your Midnight Manifest for the first episode of Daredevil Born Again Season 2. I'm going to throw it back to you, Van. Where do we even want to start? with this new season? How did you feel about it? Yeah, let's just get into it.

552.838 - 578.117 Charles Holmes

In terms of this pilot, I wish I'd have liked it more. I wish I liked the pilot more. And I don't know if it's just me. I found this really hard to follow. I found the drama here and the story here disjointed in a way. It was both for me... Now, I will say, as the pilot went on, it got better.

578.718 - 597.122 Charles Holmes

But it was both to me, totally a little disjointed, but also from a story standpoint, disjointed to where I think there was so much that it was trying to do that it didn't do anything, in my opinion, really, really well.

Chapter 7: Who are the new characters introduced in this season?

631.014 - 652.978 Charles Holmes

I watched that scene back five or six times. Because number one, we go from just even from a time standpoint, it would take a boat a little while to capsize in that way. Right. So we go legitimately from them making that decision. Think about Titanic. Think about how long it actually took. Yeah, but that was on accident. Right.

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652.958 - 682.965 Charles Holmes

did this on purpose okay whatever though so but what i'm saying is we go from them making that decision to a cut right with the water coming up yeah stuff like that and i and then right from that matt's on the beach right and the boat's in the background and the boat hasn't quite sank and i guess it's probably maybe it's too big and maybe the boat's touching the bottom whatever the hell's going on all of that i had to watch it a couple times to like understand what was going on why did he throw the watch in the so he

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682.945 - 688.13 Unknown

He can come back and get it later. That's what I thought, but it was a little bit like, okay.

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688.39 - 690.592 Van Lathan

But there's also a massive ship, so everybody could see it.

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690.612 - 707.268 Unknown

I enjoyed that part because it does that thing like in IMAX where it expands the screen and then it contracts when you find out he's listening for the watch. Because we argue about superpowers. He's got the super hearing. He throws the ticking watch into the thing so he can come back and get it later.

707.288 - 727.697 Jomi Adeniran

I understood that, but to Van's point, there was a level of almost like they kind of forget about the ship by like, as the, as the story progresses, it's like, I saw that moment. I was like, oh, he's going to go back for the guns. But then you start adding other stuff on top of it where it's like, okay, we have Heather now and she's in the pocket of Fisk.

727.937 - 740.593 Jomi Adeniran

So you have that little, and then you're like, okay, who's this Mr. Charles character? So you have this. And I was, part of me was wondering how much was on the cutting room floor. Was this,

741.637 - 749.379 Charles Holmes

It feels like, to be honest with you, another Franken-signed episode of Daredevil Born Again.

749.399 - 749.68 Steve Ahlman

Interesting.

Chapter 8: What themes of power and politics are explored in the season?

799.855 - 821.907 Charles Holmes

Things happened there. They got away on characters that we didn't care as much about. They took some side missions and all of that stuff. Even when that was happening in the show, the show just knew what it was doing and knew what it was to a degree that this one doesn't in any way. This show doesn't know if it's a daytime show. It doesn't know if it's a nighttime show. Sometimes it's a show.

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822.367 - 849.268 Charles Holmes

There's a part where early on where Karen... I guess it's getting information from a source inside of a supermarket or something like that, a bodega, and they leave the file there. She takes the file. She's in a wig. That looks ridiculous. Well, she's undercover. I know, but like it just... She's also wanted. I know that they're wanted. I know that they're undercover, but just...

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849.248 - 855.679 Charles Holmes

The tension of doing that, of going to get that, it just doesn't feel like it means anything.

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855.699 - 876.758 Unknown

To me, it feels like instead of this being a season two, it's like season one, part B. Like 1.5, yeah. Like you would come back, like the first season would end in December, and then you come back, you know, middle January, beginning February, let's go. Yeah. It doesn't really feel like a brand new, like we're starting with a whole new plot where we're moving forward.

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877.059 - 889.566 Unknown

It just seems like a continuation, which I mean, like, obviously it's season one, season two. But for whatever reason, it doesn't seem, to your point, it's not cohesive. It doesn't feel like we're just flowing right in to the next season. It feels like we skipped some steps.

889.546 - 906.998 Van Lathan

It doesn't really feel like it skips some steps. It really does feel like that this is actually the same part of another season. Like, it actually... I accidentally... Not accidentally, but, like, I just thought of, like, okay, as a refresher, like, I'll spin back the finale of the last season. And I did not think that it would be a...

906.978 - 933.305 Van Lathan

near moment-for-moment, like, continuation of everybody's story immediately after the fact. Like, we still have Fisk doing his martial law stuff. We have his, you know, stormtrooper force that's just cracking down on people in their restaurants and, like, overt ice parallels that are more and more present now. I was kind of confused as to really where we find Matt in all of this.

933.425 - 935.567 Van Lathan

I was hoping that, like, we'd get...

935.547 - 956.813 Van Lathan

him actually worrying about the city a bit more like a bit more of an existential crisis but it's just more like everybody's going we're here with karen we're trying to figure out where we're going and it's still disjointed well the fist part of it is interesting as well because charles and i disagree on this but i think the thing that worked more than anything

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