Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome into the Ringerverse. This is, of course, the Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are Steve, the architect, Alma, the builder, and Tigger of things. Jomie, the explainer, and Dineron. You've got questions, he's got answers. Old Man Van, he of the receding, resurgent hairline. Coke, Baby Chuck, 24-karat closing. Together we are known as the Midnight Boys.
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Shout out everybody. that was locked in during A Night of the Seven Kingdoms. The socials went crazy during that time.
Chapter 2: What is the significance of the Black TV Draft?
So if you were liking, following, commenting, the whole thing. And I want to say two specific shout outs. Shout out Cisco. He loved the video we did on the car game.
Cisco. Hey, can we get Cisco on the show?
We can get Cisco. Cisco, come on the show.
Let's get Cisco the Dragon on the show. to do a special interview on House of the Dragon. This is what we do. What we do is we get Cisco on the show. Right.
Dragon Draft. The Dragon Draft? Write that down. Write that down. The Dragon Draft. Write that down.
Write that down.
We're going to do a dragon draft for Cisco to celebrate House of the Dragon, and we are hoping to get Cisco the dragon. Wait, what are the categories? Who is eligible to be drafted?
Oh, man.
Okay, are we doing like Wyvern versus dragons? Medieval dragons?
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Chapter 3: What are the categories for the Black TV Draft?
But I don't think that's drag on, though, because I think that... I always, DragĆ³n had, and this is not that Magoo didn't have. DragĆ³n has a real record. DragĆ³n is a real record. Magoo has records. Magoo has records too. Why? But I'm saying, I don't feel like we should do that. I feel like this is just, I can't quite name them all, but you know.
Hey, real quick. You know who was locked in the whole time, liking, commenting, sharing the whole thing? Who? Laz Alonso.
shout out Laz wait Laz was fucking with Laz was in the comments dog in the comments in the stories on all of the stuff he was locked in from the jump shout out Laz you the man shout out Drag On bro shout out all the rappers that was rapping their asses off back in the day these niggas don't be rapping no more alright come on man
No, we got a J. Cole record. It's fine. Is J. Cole be rapping? No, he don't. Yes, he do. You know what?
That nigga said he's the hardest with a white mother.
Nah. Light reflects when a half black messiah raps. He got the logic bars?
Yeah.
Wait, real quick, and then we'll move on. I'll say this. We have to move on. But he, J. Cole, would be wrapping his ass off, though. No? You don't like it? My question is, and be honest, this is for the table. Charles is something else, bro. I could come up and be like, Jesus Christ, fantastic God, die for the sins. He's like, yeah, what has he done for me lately? Did he though?
Because people still sin, right?
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Chapter 4: How has Black television evolved over the decades?
You can wait for UPN if you want.
They got bars on bars. I know. Whole ass bar? All right. I apologize. For classic, I'm going to do Sanford and Son.
Oh, that's very nice.
Because I love Redd Foxx. Redd Foxx.
Those are two strong selections.
I know. Yeah, if Steve wins this. And here's the thing. I'm like a huge, like, I grew up more, again, I was introduced to Redd Foxx because of his stand-up comedy first and his, like, comedy routines before I saw the show. Your parents were listening to Redd Foxx? What the fuck are you talking about? Is that true?
Yes. You were listening to Redd Foxx before?
My grandparents were listening to Redd Foxx.
You were listening to Redd Foxx before your, it, My grandparents loved Red Fox.
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Chapter 5: What insights do the hosts share about 'Scandal'?
That's incredible. We talking about shit. We're like, yo, remember? I forgot they had Liam Neeson.
The Liam Neeson apology episode stays in my brain forever.
The reason why we can move off Atlanta after this, but the reason why I give them such credit for that is... That is the type of thing to why we would all be sitting around, because we know we have these conversations, and we'd be like, yo, man, that would be fucking hysterical if we could do that. Now we can't do that.
And they did it. They did it. They did that. All right, so my next pick, you know what? I'm going to go with another number one overall pick just in the category, because this did damage in college. I got to go Shonda Rhimes' Scandal. Yeah, if you didn't get it, I was going to take it.
The Scandal hit the hood.
Scandal's so crazy. Scandal was... Because... This was a word of mouth show for me where I was watching like Breaking Bad or whatever. Shout out my cousin Kwesi, who's a professor now at Tuskegee.
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Chapter 6: How do the hosts feel about the portrayal of Black fatherhood in UPN shows?
He's like, nah, but are you on that Scandal? I'm like, Scandal? Well, he's like, nah, nah, nah. You gotta watch Scandal. And I, bro, from the first episode, I'm like, what type of interracial mess is going on here?
Like,
Scandal is the number one interracial show ever. Ever. Y'all, dude. Ever. The thing of another show, I think Scandal might be the number one. I think that's the number one.
Well, it has one other. Someone else can draft, but it has one other. Interracial? Interracial. Shout out. Shout out. Power ain't up there. As far as... And the shit Ghost was doing. He was jogging around New York, spinning around fucking poles with his shawty, bro. But let me just tell you, like, Fitz... And what's, um... Olivia Pope. And Olivia Pope.
Their relationship on this show is not only so funny, but when they bring in Olivia's dad... Oh, my God.
I like... He was... I forget what episode it was, but that one where he tore her up. Yeah. He went crazy. He was like... I was like, oh, my gosh. That's supposed to be your daughter. What you doing?
Every single episode where Fitz would kick Olivia to the curb and she would go back to her apartment drinking wine, eating popcorn down bed. I'm like, pick yourself up.
Pick yourself up. For some reason, though, I wasn't... The Olivia Fitz thing, it never bothered me, man. It was supposed to bother me, but it didn't, man. I mean, you know, it's... It never fucking bothered me, man. It was supposed to bother me, but it didn't bother me. Is he...
Weird now that, like, when Scandal came out, I was just like, oh, this got the soap opera flair.
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Chapter 7: What is the significance of 'The Wire' in the context of Black television?
Man, there's never going to be a president, a white president, sneaking in his black chocolate side chick.
And now I'm like, now I'm like, nah, that's just what we like. That's regular.
I mean, but instead, you know, it's just a bunch of pedos in the White House.
It's tough. So Scandal is off the board. So I'm just going to leave Shonda Rhimes alone at this point. I'm going to come back to her later. I got to go sitcom. Sitcom is by far... You know what? I'm not going to go sitcom. Oh. Because it's too many.
It's like that's the most loaded category. That's the most loaded category. Yeah, you got an amazing picture. I think we fucked up. I think we should have done a whole 90s category, actually.
I think we should have probably done a whole 90s category anyway. But I can't go sitcom because sitcom got too many hits. Too many hits. So I'm going to go UPN.
There you go.
I'm going to take the number one UPN show. I'm going to take Moesha. So I got to get a number one. I got to get an unimpeachable number one. So I got to get Moesha. Shout out Moesha.
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Chapter 8: What conclusions do the hosts draw about biracial identity in Black culture?
Shout out Moesha. Shout out the legend Ray J. Shout out the legend Ray J. Shout out Brandy. Shout out Brandy. Shout out Cheryl Lee Ralph. I'll tell you what, though. Fuck Frank.
Yeah.
Fuck the dad. The worst. Frank, you have the floor. Talk about it. Frank, you are the worst father in the history of Of not just black TV. Frank might be the worst father in television history. Frank, continuously, do not miss Moving On Up. a history of black television. We talk about this. Frank continuously gets taught lessons by Moesha.
Yep.
Moesha parents Frank. Frank says stuff. Hey, need you home by 11. Moesha turns around. Dad, you don't even know what 11 o'clock means. Deep shit. Just fucks Frank up. Then on top of that, Frank, we think Frank is this, uh, Paragon of respectability and right and virtue. The whole time Frank got a son and they say it's a cousin. They ain't told the kids. Frank been doing the whole nine.
Frank ain't. Shit, it's so funny. Frank told Ray J's character that Ray J couldn't play the booty song when he was DJing at the fucking thing. Nigga, you don't tell me nothing. You don't tell me nothing, fake dad. Fake daddy, you don't say shit to me. You have meant nothing to us, okay? Go sell some fucking cars and keep the lights on. You can't do anything.
Moesha stayed overnight with her friends. Frank called her a whore. Where that guy's at the party. Moesha looks at Frank and goes, what, you think I'm over there fucking? No, you don't trust me, dad. Go to your room. Frank's like, my bad, Moesha. Shut the fuck up. Frank makes me sick. And I also think that Frank was a commentary on
on maybe how some people were feeling about Black fatherhood in the mid-90s. I think when you saw the way a lot of the dads were portrayed on these UPN shows, I'm giving away stuff that's in the pod now, I think there was a lot of angst. It's the anti-Uncle Phil. Yeah, there was a lot of angst. It was coming out of Bill Cosby, Uncle Phil, there was a lot of angst surrounding that.
That's what I was going to ask. When do you feel like... Do you feel like Bill Cosby and...
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