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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
Welcome into the Ringerverse. This is, of course, Ringer's Nexus podcast feed for all things fandom. We are Steve, the architect, Alma, the builder, and Tigger of things. Jomie, the algorithm, a dinner on. I don't know if algorithm is sticking. I don't know if it's working. It's a very long nickname. It's a very long nickname. Yeah, already got a long name enough. It is true.
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Man, so quickly. Now I got to get, I got a whole spiel. It's quick. We late. Let's go. So, Wemby had a quote after game one, and he was like, we can rest in July. And I was like, man, I wish that was us. It will not be us. Game of Thrones, Odyssey, what do you call it? Spider-Man, Comic-Con. There's no rest for us. We will not rest. We will not rest in July.
When does the rest come? Because it doesn't really even seem like we're going to be resting in the fall.
I think there's like a little space in between summer and fall. No, maybe, but that's closer to November, October, November. Because I don't know exactly, but doesn't Lanterns come right after Game of Thrones? Lanterns is in August.
Yes, right after Game of Thrones.
Oh God, we're cooked. No sleep for the wicked.
Lanterns is in August, and then the fall has obviously the winter. has Dune and Doomsday. What else is in the fall?
We get Clayface in the fall. Clayface is in the fall. Clayface is in the fall. Yeah, man. I don't know if Clayface is going to be that big of a deal for us.
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Chapter 2: What are the reactions to the series finale of 'The Boys'?
if it ends up being Soldier Boy who strips, like thematically, a father stripping his son of power works, I think for how much time we spent with that character, we would have all come in here and be like, damn, I've been waiting this long to see this and Butcher or another member of the boys did not have a bigger role to play.
And I also think that is just what happens with a multi-season TV show, especially in this landscape where it was like, Soulja Boy was supposed to be able to take him down and then Ryan was supposed to be able to take him down and then Marie. And it's like, yeah, but none of those characters are the boys. None of them are the crew that we've grown to love. Right.
So it had to be one of the people that we love.
And so they give Kimiko the powers. And then there's also like the fault rising thing. And the more I think about it, the more I think that like, it's going to be one of those shows where they take him out of the ice. Yeah. And he's going to be sitting there like, man, I remember back in my day, like, that's just when, that's what it's going to be like.
And I think maybe in there, how they're making that show, it doesn't work. If he's the one to ice out Homelander. Interesting.
Now. Okay. So then we get, After that, we leave and we have the assault on the White House, which is a fantastic sequence in this. I really liked Allfather. Was it Godfather? Allfather?
Allfather, yeah.
I really liked his character. Really?
He was funny. I liked his character. He's the first character and the first storyline I would have jettisoned from the entire season. I didn't want him to die.
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Chapter 3: How do the characters' arcs conclude in the finale?
It took a lot of time. Oh, yeah. And then Kimiko just does it, and his powers are gone. I'm just like, they play very fast and loose.
I'm going to say that that was just like a truncated, like, okay, we see the Frenchie force ghost. She has the power of love and friendship on her side, and she's just able to do it in her own time. Like, I was able to...
Even that scene was incredibly moving. It was.
It was very moving.
They were trying to leverage her rage and her rage to make her unleash the blast, but it wasn't her rage that made her do it. It was a really, really moving and effective scene.
On the Kimiko front, though, I was a little disappointed and taken aback when Frenchie dies and then she just decides to not talk anymore. And like, that's a, again, like that's a, it's reduced to a character affect, but I can understand why she now chooses not to talk, but it feels like a bit of a cheap run around to be like, okay, well now I'm back to the old Kimiko.
And this is now, I did not like that part either. This is how we're going to defeat Homelander.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of the finale for future storylines?
And I'm like, Yes, that can be sold, but it can't be sold to me in like 20 minutes. A little bit. It's a bit off. Am I crazy? No, you're not crazy at all.
I think the reason why it didn't bother me that much is because the scene where he comes to like remind her who she is is a reminder to her not to go backwards. Like Frenchie gives her permission
to move forward to like he's not here anymore she sees him he gives her permission to say hey this was never who you were and this is what I always saw in you don't get weighed down by like rage or grief or whatever go forward have your life and it begins right here and then she rises to the occasion so and I think her not being able to speak was or going back to that was her sort of retreating
into who she was and what was comfortable for her or who she used to be, it kind of undid the evolution that we had seen in the character. And then he goes, no, don't do that. Start right now and become who you are. All right, this is very deep. Okay, so look, speaking of deep, before we move on, The deep. Talking about plot holes. Listen. So the nigga, they fall out of the sky. He's okay.
Right? And then the sea creatures kill him by penetrating. Sometimes I don't understand these powers. So they fall all the way out of the sky, but that don't kill him.
No.
But then he gets into the water.
Right.
And it's very funny, but an octopus puts their fucking- Tentacle. Tentacle through his head.
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Chapter 5: What do the hosts think about the epilogue of The Boys?
Oh. Now he was pouting. But he couldn't kill Jon because Jon's a Targaryen. Right. So he just... You ever see... He's just like, I'm so mad. I'm going to punch you all. He couldn't kill Jon because Jon's a Targaryen. He wouldn't kill a Targaryen. This is... You know what I always... I always wondered is, you know, have y'all ever gotten mad and broken something? No.
Probably.
That's never happened to me. I see people do that type of stuff. I used to play video games with my friend Ryan. His name is Ryan Davenport, and he lives in Austin. He's a friend of mine, my best friend. We met the first day.
Real wall punchers, those Ryans.
The first day. It's true. The first day of the first grade, Ryan Davenport. We'd be playing video games, and something would happen, and Ryan would break the controller. I would never do that.
That's so insane. I would never do that.
You can't break the controller. You have to buy another controller. You break the controller. I just see people... That video of Hal McRae, the... You guys haven't seen this video? What's this? Hal McRae, the... The manager of the Royals back in the day, he was asked a question during a press conference. This is one of my favorite baseball videos.
He was asked a question during a press conference, and he just lost it and started destroying his office in front of the media. Just destroying his whole office.
Who has ever done that?
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Chapter 6: How does the finale compare to previous seasons?
Who do you think you are? That's what I'm saying. Why do people be slamming doors when they're mad?
Once or twice. Not only not, you don't slam a door, you can't suck your teeth.
Oh, hell no.
Not only can you not slam the door, but like, you go, what the fuck? What? What you... Roll them eyes again, I'm going to knock them out the back of your motherfucking head. That's what the fuck going to happen. Get the fuck out of here. Go do something.
This is what Ryan can look forward to in M.M. 's house. All right, Steve is getting comfortable. Steve, you're getting too comfortable, bro.
Steve is so comfortable. Steve. Was that too crazy?
Don't talk about our parenting, Steve. Was that too crazy? Steve, you're getting too comfortable, bro.
Was that too crazy?
We're having a conversation about- I apologize if that was legitimately too crazy.
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Chapter 7: What are the main points about the series as a whole?
I hate to break it to y'all. That was crazy. But that Dark Knight Rises scene doesn't make any fucking sense whatsoever. Excuse me, a couple things. First of all, Alfred and Bruce Wayne aren't like buddies. That's his fucking dad.
Yeah. Okay.
That's his like Alfred and Bruce. Bruce Wayne's parents were killed when he was like eight or nine years old.
Okay.
Raised that kid. Raised Bruce Wayne. Yes. Now, don't get me wrong. He'd be making his dad go like make him some scrambled eggs and all of that shit like that. It's true. But there is no way in hell that.
That Alfred and Bruce Wayne, after living with each other for decades, crying with each other, building this gigantic secret with each other, that Alfred is just going to look at him, give him a head nod, and be like, go about yourself and go live your life. That is so fucking dumb. There's no fucking way in hell that that would ever fucking happen. He was with this girl.
He was having a good life. He didn't want him to relapse into the Batman. I understand that. That all makes sense. No fucking way in hell it happens.
Nah, man. It makes no sense. Now, wait, wait, wait. Let me ask this. If we get a third Batman movie with Robert Pattinson, Robert Pattinson- His Batman would do that. Would absolutely do that. Yes, he would. His Batman would do that.
And be like, fuck you, Alfred. You lied to me.
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Chapter 8: What are the reactions to the Lanterns trailer?
Uh, I'm not going to argue with his ranking.
No. Yeah.
Um, but, This is about to sound like I'm going to give the season, the final season, an eight. Goddamn. Okay. I'm going to give it an eight. I mean, it was, going into this, it was a very strong seven. But I feel like this finale ended up so good, I gotta give it an eight.
I think I'm gonna give it a seven. I enjoyed where we got, but how we got there was a little bumpy.
Yeah, as a finale, to me, that's an eight. But I think the season, that's a seven for me. There was some mess. It felt like it lost the ball a couple of times. I would have loved a bit more focus on the things that we really cared about. But overall, I think it was pretty good.
Now, here's the real... We've never done this before. I don't think we've ever really gotten the chance. Yeah, I mean, we did it with Andor, but I'm talking about... Andor was like... more like a limited, even some of the other shows, even that like Shogun is coming back. These are like, this is, we've never done this before.
So entire series, we'll start with you, Van and the boys. 11. Really?
I'll tell you why. Okay. I'll tell you why. So, the reason why it's an 11 is, number one, this show cut through to... You could almost make the case for it as a game changer, but you can't make it a 12 because it just didn't have the sustained excellence of a 12. But this show cut through... And established itself and its world in a time where that is nigh impossible to do.
Sure.
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