Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Manresa, Spain, 1523.
Chapter 2: What extreme penances did Inigo undertake in Manresa?
Living in a cave, Inigo does extreme penances, trying to make himself into a great saint. He prays seven hours a day, but still struggles to discern between good and evil. A war between angels and demons rages in his soul, and it's about to come to the surface.
The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage.
Chapter 3: How did Inigo struggle with discernment between good and evil?
Ignatius of Loyola, Episode 3, An Angel of Light. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com.
Wine, Doctor? I'm sweating through the sheets. I'm not getting better. You're not getting better. And that disobedient novice is at fault.
Chapter 4: What internal conflict did Inigo experience with angels and demons?
His disobedience will be dealt with, doctor.
He has set you back with the cold. He needs serious guidance. He should be removed from the Society of Jesus for his disobedience.
You, doctor, are responsible for my health. I am the superior general responsible for the health of the Society. Perhaps you can do your job and I will do mine.
Forgive me, Father Ignatius. As I mentioned, drink wine, not water. Stay in these blankets and keep the cold out. If you send for that menace to punish him, make it quick so you can rest. Very well. Thank you, Doctor.
Father General, you sent for me? Father Ignatius? Father, I'm sorry. Father Ignatius? Oh, my! Father Ignatius! You're in a pool of sweat! You're burning up! Are you alive? Let's get these blankets off. Father, have you been drinking wine? Help! We need a doctor! Father, where is your doctor?
Doctor's orders. Wine. Blankets.
He is killing you. He is a terrible doctor. We need to find you a different one. Please, Father. I know you will never go against the doctor's orders, but this is crazy. Help! Please! I need a doctor!
Doctor!
It is a good thing this young novice found me when he did.
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Chapter 5: How did Inigo's health deteriorate during his penances?
You were dying, Father. I don't know who your doctor was, but the novice is right. He was not nursing you back to health. Did you not realize that you had a fever? I did. Father, you were burning yourself to death. This young man may have saved your life. Thank you. I think you're on the mend now. Good day.
I am sorry, Father. You disobeyed the doctor's orders to leave me alone. Then you lied to my face. Father, please forgive me. Do you realize that I have dismissed others from the Society of Jesus for Less? I do. Why should it be any different for you? Because I saved you.
I... Because I... Well... No. Father Ignatius, you're right. Please forgive me. I am truly sorry. I will go.
My son, do you know why I obey the doctor, even to the point of death? No, Father General. I truly do not. Because he has rightful authority to make medical decisions, whether he is competent or not. for the greater glory of God. But Father, that seems imprudent. We should treat those with rightful authority as Christ Himself giving the orders.
The will needs to be trained to be subordinate to the will of God. You should obey those appointed over you just as if you were a stick in the hand of an old man to do whatever he wished. Father. You should be as a small crucifix that can just be moved around from one place to another. Okay, I understand. No, you do not. You should be as a dead corpse with no will.
except to do the will of the Father of Heaven. You do not understand, and it is unfortunate that you have had to learn the hard way.
Was it the will of the Father of Heaven that you should die at the hands of an incompetent doctor? Is that not something that you have learned the hard way?
I am not responsible for the incompetency of the doctor. I am responsible for my willingness to obey his rightful authority. I want to understand.
But this just seems crazy! Are you just a crazy old man? What on earth happened to you in that cave in Manresa? Father Ignatius, what's so funny?
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