Louis and Zelie: Episode Five

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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Olaf Haraldsson 0:02
1877. Louis and Zelie still struggle to understand the mystery of Leonie's bad behavior. While baby Therese is now a strong, healthy, adorable little girl, Zelie's poor health has reached a crisis point.
Peter Atkinson 0:25
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Doctor (Unknown) 0:53
I'm afraid you have a very serious illness, Madame Martin. You should have come to me sooner.

What medical diagnosis does Zélie receive at the start of the episode?

Doctor (Unknown) 1:00
This is a fibrous tumor, breast cancer.
Zélie Martin 1:03
I thought as much. My brother is a doctor in Lisieux.
Doctor (Unknown) 1:07
What treatment do you recommend?
Louis Martin 1:09
Are you open to an operation? Zelie's brother considers the likelihood of an operation succeeding to be very slim.
Zélie Martin 1:17
And I could lose the use of my arm, which would mean I'd lose our family's livelihood.
Doctor (Unknown) 1:24
Do you advise the surgery? It's quite uncertain.
Zélie Martin 1:28
A one in a hundred chance?
Doctor (Unknown) 1:31
It's hard to say.
Zélie Martin 1:33
Is there any more certain treatment?

Why is surgery for Zélie considered risky and what are the proposed options?

Doctor (Unknown) 1:37
I could give you this prescription.
Zélie Martin 1:39
What will it do?
Doctor (Unknown) 1:43
Nothing. It's to make the patients happy. Good God have mercy.
Louis Martin 1:50
Let's go, Zelie. Oui. Thank you for your time, Doctor. We'll seek other treatment options.
Zélie Martin 2:01
Elise, the Doctor confirmed our suspicions. I've got my invitation to the wedding feast in heaven. Unless God wants to give me a miracle... I'm telling the girls today. I can't keep anything from them. You asked how the little ones are doing. My little Céline is completely drawn to virtue. It's the innermost feeling of her being. She has a pure soul and a horror of evil. As for the little ferret, we don't really know what she'll do. Therese is so little, so scatterbrained. She has an intelligence superior to Céline's, but much less gentle. And above all, an almost invincible stubbornness. Good morning, Marie. Would you like some tea? Oui, maman. The kettle just started whistling. I'll pour it then. Perfect.
Zélie Martin 3:09
I'll just be a few minutes finishing this letter to your aunt.
Thérèse (child) 3:13
Maman! Maman! Yes, Therese? Why is Papa putting his fishing rods in the attic? What's that? He says he's not going fishing anymore. But it's summer!
Léonie Martin 3:24
Therese! Stop yelling, please! You're always so loud! Is something wrong?

How does Zélie tell her daughters about her illness and how do they react?

Léonie Martin 3:29
And where were you and Papa today? You were gone when I woke up.
Zélie Martin 3:32
Hush, hush, girls! Leonie, Céline, come sit by me at the table. Therese, hop up on my lap. Marie, the tea can wait.
Léonie Martin 3:44
So something is wrong.
Zélie Martin 3:46
I'll tell Pauline in a letter.
Léonie Martin 3:48
Tell Pauline what in a letter?
Zélie Martin 3:50
What is it, Maman? I'm very sick. You know that I've had a swollen gland on my breast for a very long time. Well, it's gotten much worse. It's a tumor now, and I may need a surgery. A surgery? We need to fix it?
Léonie Martin 4:10
Probably not. What does that mean? Don't die, Maman. Die? Are you going to heaven?
Zélie Martin 4:16
Oh, Maman. I might be cured. I can keep working and praying, and your papa will not give up until we've seen every doctor we can. Come here, Leonie. Calm down, my love. You're squishing me! Don't go, Mama. God will let me stay with you if you need me. Hush. Don't cry. Don't cry, my dear.
Léonie Martin 5:04
Maman? Marie? Anne is bullying Leonie. What?
Louis Martin 5:09
The maid?
Léonie Martin 5:10
I've been watching since I came home from school because I noticed something strange and Leonie would always obey Anne but never one of us and I think it's because of Anne that she's so badly behaved. She's so harsh to her, Maman. I heard Anne talking in the kitchen. She's mean! Dear God! I'm dismissing her at once!
Zélie Martin 5:34
Can you believe it? Years and years Anna has been with us, and I never noticed what a control she had over Leonie.
Louis Martin 5:42
I didn't either.
Zélie Martin 5:44
I'm her mother. I should have known. This Alençon lace is such a burden.
Louis Martin 5:49
You've done so well. We don't need you to work such long hours anymore.
Zélie Martin 5:54
I want to live, Louis. I want time to begin to raise my Leonie.
Louis Martin 6:00
I know.
Zélie Martin 6:01
Before, I couldn't persuade her to get dressed to go out with me. But today, she popped up and followed me everywhere. It's her future that worries me the most. What will become of her if I'm gone? I don't dare think about it.
Louis Martin 6:19
Don't worry so much, Zelie. God has merciful plans for all of us.
Zélie Martin 6:25
If it only took the sacrifice of my life for her to become a saint, I would give it willingly.
Louis Martin 6:31
Enough, Zelie.

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