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The Saints

Philip Neri: Episode Two

28 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What significant changes occurred in Philip Neri's life by 1544?

1.297 - 21.499 Narrator

Rome 1544. 10 years have passed since Philip sold his books and gave up on a scholar's life. But despite his best efforts, he has still gained a reputation for wit and holiness in Roman society. And now, his generous heart urges him on to new adventures.

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28.769 - 56.097 Host

The Saints, Adventures of Faith and Courage. Philip Neri, Episode 2, The Clown. Listen to all the episodes and discover new shows at thesaintspodcast.com. Here, drink this, Antonio. A nice hot chamomile infusion is soothing.

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Chapter 2: How did Philip Neri gain a reputation in Roman society?

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58.435 - 63.881 Host

Watching the autopsy of your friend being performed is... Is heartbreaking, Doctor.

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66.003 - 83.903 Doctor

Heartbreaking. Philip Nary was like no other. Even his autopsy. I can swear to that. I have never seen anything like it. And I have never seen anyone do God's work the way he did.

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Chapter 3: What motivates Philip Neri to seek deeper adventures?

85.165 - 102.364 Doctor

Philip was changing how evangelizing was done in Rome. He preached with his person and his whole heart, not from a pulpit. People didn't know what to make of him, but they all wanted to be around him.

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112.84 - 120.229 Madame Maté

Madame Maté, I am delighted you could come to dinner. You will love the duck cooked prepared.

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120.269 - 159.397 Lola

Thank you, Marcus. Please, call me Lola. It's been too long, Lola. Far too long. May I say your dress is exquisite, Portia. Thank you. And Lola, your hairpin, the jewels, magnificent. I needed something to keep this thick hair out of my face. Our guest of honor is someone I am sure neither you nor any of our friends have ever hosted. Do tell, Portia. You are always trying to one-up me. Philip.

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160.96 - 161.14 Madame Maté

Mary.

161.879 - 163.781 Lola

The Pied Piper of Rome.

163.942 - 165.664 Madame Maté

He's so, so holy.

165.964 - 171.511 Lola

And smart, Marcus. That crackpot who tutors Galeotto Caccia's children.

171.772 - 175.677 Madame Maté

That's him. I heard he was the heir to his uncle's fortune.

Chapter 4: How did Philip Neri's unique approach to evangelizing differ from traditional methods?

315.135 - 342.609 Philip Neri

Lola is saying what she sees, madam. I do look ridiculous and find delight in a person who can be honest. That's a good start. Pardon me, Master Neri, but... Please, call me Philip. And you are? Marcus. Well, Marcus, I shaved half of my beard as a reminder not to take myself too seriously. With respect, it is an odd way to show your commitment to humility.

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343.51 - 351.102 Philip Neri

External appearances should not be a source of pride. Hence the inside-out clothing. Humility is the key to spiritual life.

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351.757 - 354.381 Lola

You really don't care what others think, do you?

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Chapter 5: What challenges did Philip Neri face in his life and ministry?

355.122 - 366.157 Philip Neri

I only care how God sees me. Too much praise and admiration can lead to pride, which leads to... Spiritual danger? Yes, Lola. Yes. Lola?

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366.458 - 380.397 Lola

Lola, why would you ever pull your hairpin out and let half of your hair fall down on your face? And at the table, no less. It's not about outward appearances or maintaining an image, correct, Master Neri?

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380.495 - 382.177 Philip Neri

Absolutely, Madame Matei.

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382.998 - 383.699 Lola

Call me Lola.

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384.56 - 386.302 Philip Neri

I like her. She's bold.

387.103 - 389.987 Lola

Feel free to sell these jewels in my hairpin to feed the poor.

390.348 - 392.33 Philip Neri

I will, Lola. I certainly will.

402.583 - 405.627 Pietro Caccia

There. I'm finished with the assignment, Philip.

405.647 - 424.635 Philip Neri

Hand it over, Pietro Caccia. Let's see how you did this time. Yes, yes. Well, you've come a long way, my friend. This translation is excellent. Really? That's high praise from you. A little too excellent. Your lavish language could use a leash.

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