In this episode, host Raghu Nandukumara sits down with Illumio CTO and Co-Founder PJ Kirner, to discuss Illumio’s founding story, taking a data-driven approach to innovation and market validation, and what RSA attendees should be thinking about as they gear up for this year’s conference. --------"I do think we fell off the bandwagon with all this implicit trust in the environment…All these things that were just allowed to talk to each other implicitly—no one ever thought about, you know, let’s turn this into explicit trust? That's a place where I think we definitely needed Zero Trust to help us along that journey." - PJ Kirner--------Time Stamps* (0:47) The Illumio founding story*(11:39) What do submarines and cyber resilience have in common?*(14:55) Overcoming implicit trust *(24:40) Validating ideas with data* (36:13) What a CTO hopes to see at RSA--------SponsorAssume breach, minimize impact, increase resilience ROI, and save millions in downtime costs — with Illumio, the Zero Trust Segmentation company. Learn more at illumio.com or visit us at RSAC in San Francisco, between April 24 – April 27! You can find us in the North Hall, at Booth 5778.--------LinksConnect with PJ on LinkedIn

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