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The Shit No One Tells You About Writing 36 min 4 speakers 3 chapters transcribed 1 month ago
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Carly Watters 0:00
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Bianca Marais 1:19
Welcome, everyone, to a very special episode of our podcast.
CeCe Lyra 1:36
We have with us an incredibly special guest. I am so excited to introduce Rachel Hochhauser. Author of Lady Tremaine. Rachel grew up in Santa Barbara, California. She attended New York University and earned a master's in professional writing from the University of Southern California. Currently, she lives in Portland, Oregon with her husband and two daughters. And Lady Tremaine is her first novel, which I will say right now sounds unbelievable to me because it is one of my all-time favorite novels. I read it this year and at first I was like, oh my God, this is my favorite book of the year. And then I realized that I loved it so much that now it's not just my favorite book of the year, but it's officially joined the roster of one of my favorite ever.
CeCe Lyra 2:21
So welcome, Rachel.
Rachel Hochhauser 2:23
What a wonderful welcome. Thank you. This is news to me too, so I'm sitting over here grinning.
CeCe Lyra 2:30
Well, it is much deserved because your book is amazing, your novel is amazing, but we're going to begin by putting you on the spot. You mentioned that you listen to the podcast, so this will probably not be a surprise for you. Rachel, if you were in an elevator, unagented, unpublished, and a publishing professional were to ask you, hey, what's your novel about? How would you pitch it? What would be your elevator pitch?
Rachel Hochhauser 2:51
Well, I would have, before going through the whole publishing journey, I probably would have pitched it very differently. So I've learned a lot and it's hard for me to remember how I talked about the book. Now I'm very used to talking about the book, but if I were to meet someone this afternoon in an elevator, I would probably say it's an untelling of Cinderella, not a retelling. I use that word really specifically from the point of view of the so-called evil stepmother. And Typically, I can just leave it at that, or we can kind of pick at some threads and unravel things a bit. But sometimes I like to talk about that there's a falconry storyline, that it's a love story, but not just about romance.
Rachel Hochhauser 3:35
It's familial love, a mother's love, love between friends and women. The book, I think, is very layered.
CeCe Lyra 3:43
It's definitely very layered. I think, well, first of all, that was an amazing pitch. I'm so curious to know how you used to pitch it. I'm very sad you don't remember. It would be really interesting exercise to compare the two pitches. I think Amelia Hart, author of Wayward, put it best when she said, Rachel unpicks this old fairy tale and weaves it into a feminist war cry. Like, it was so beautiful.

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