Ben Greenfield On What Actually Works For Longevity, The Biohacks He's Stopped Doing & Why Living Longer Isn't The Point

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What new biohacking techniques is Ben most excited about right now?

Michael Bosstick 0:00
Hello everybody, welcome back to another episode of The Boss Sticks. Today we have Ben Greenfield on the show. So what happens when you spend decades testing almost every variable of human performance on yourself, only to realize some of the things you thought mattered don't really matter at all? That's Ben Greenfield, and it's been about 700 episodes since we sat down with him last. With that, Ben, welcome back to the show. So I was telling you before we started that you're difficult to do these with, not because, I mean, we could talk to you about a million things
Ben Greenfield 0:30
for hours and hours
Michael Bosstick 0:31
because there's so many rabbit holes.
Ben Greenfield 0:32
The
Michael Bosstick 0:32
last time you were on in episode 248 and 278 in February of 2020, August 2020, those were some dicey times in 2020, right? So we almost got ripped off the airwaves. But since then, I feel like you got a new... Updated book, upgraded, updated, whatever you
Bruno Satin 0:53
call
Michael Bosstick 0:53
it. You got a movie that just came out. You got a million things. We want to know like all the cutting edge things, the things that we're not going to get thrown off the air for. But to start, what are the things that you're most excited about right now? And what do you think's changed most about you over the last six years?
Ben Greenfield 1:09
what i'm most excited about i would say like first thing that comes to mind probably because this is a discussion i was just having with somebody who was dealing with lime and then there's microplastics and mold and mycotoxins and all of these things that we're all aware of now that probably human beings have been dealing with for all of time but we just have better detection methodologies and many of us are a little bit more orthorexic with a lot of time on my on our hands and you know uh access to advanced diagnostic testing so a whole bunch of people have things in their body that they want to get rid of and this whole field of like um plasmapheresis right pulling blood out filtering it putting typically something like albumin back in and then an IV or like full body blood filtration which is super gnarly uh you can act you can't do this in the US but like
Ben Greenfield 2:01
You can go to Mexico and get all the blood sucked out of your body, typically via a catheter in your jugular. Have you done it? Yeah. Of course. It's my job to do all this stuff. I experiment with it, not because I'm sick, but I write about it. I podcast about it. And so, and then there's another version over in Europe where you can literally get like your body heated so the blood comes out faster and then they add ozone into that mix. Long story short is in the whole field that I'm in a lot, health and biohacking, this idea of like, Oil change for the body is kind of like the big new thing. And there's, I mean, you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting the clinic here in Austin that now does some kind of like plasmapheresis, ozone dialysis.
Ben Greenfield 2:47
Like you sit down and you got a catheter. And people are
Michael Bosstick 2:50
holding the bags up. You
Ben Greenfield 2:51
know, they were holding
Michael Bosstick 2:52
up the bags. Look at all my stuff.
Ben Greenfield 2:53
Yeah. All the stuff they pulled out of my body. Remember
Michael Bosstick 2:56
years and years ago, this was probably really early, and you were probably switched on to this, but I think people thought it was strange at the time. They would talk about Keith Richards, because he was from the Rolling Stones, and he lived so hard and partied so hard. But
Ben Greenfield 3:05
they said
Michael Bosstick 3:06
he would go to Switzerland and do these kind of things, and
Ben Greenfield 3:08
it
Michael Bosstick 3:08
sounded like a fantasy. It didn't sound real, but maybe he was just switched on.
Ben Greenfield 3:13
That's true. That's the trickle down. It starts with pro soccer and rock stars, and then just kind of eventually comes down to the rest of the general pop. What's changed in the past six years? I would say... Maybe not six exactly, but that, you know, the reason I came down was for this film, which is about the, um, the realization that I had that this whole mountain that a lot of people are climbing of health and biohacking and looks maxing and veins in the abs or whatever is pretty unfulfilling in the long run. And people are spending too much time on that versus the things that we know are truly fulfilling.

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