John and I welcomed back Eric Berger of Ars Technica to Hotel Mars for a one-segment update and discussion on SpaceX, Elon Musk, and Starship. We began by asking Eric what successful Starship testing would look like for SpaceX. He acknowledged that it's difficult to define clear success metrics at this stage.We then discussed the upcoming Demo Test #10, potential hardware and assembly issues, plus Eric elaborated on some of the challenges SpaceX might face. The conversation touched on Starship’s role in NASA's planned Moon missions, the importance of testing in low Earth orbit (LEO), and the need to develop and demonstrate in-orbit refueling capabilities. Eric spoke about the types of fuel Starship uses and highlighted the need to address issues like boil-off during storage in space.Before concluding, we asked Eric about the ongoing feud between Elon Musk and President Trump. Eric said it was hard to predict how things would unfold but thought Musk might walk back some of his comments. He emphasized the strategic importance of SpaceX to the U.S. government in both civil space and national security domains. While the FAA could theoretically delay permits in response to Musk’s remarks, Eric didn’t think that was likely at this time.Special thanks to our sponsors:Northrup Grumman, American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, Helix Space in Luxembourg, Celestis Memorial Spaceflights, Astrox Corporation, Dr. Haym Benaroya of Rutgers University, The Space Settlement Progress Blog by John Jossy, The Atlantis Project, and Artless EntertainmentOur Toll Free Line for Live Broadcasts: 1-866-687-7223For real time program participation, email Dr. Space at: [email protected] Space Show is a non-profit 501C3 through its parent, One Giant Leap Foundation, Inc. To donate via Pay Pal, use:To donate with Zelle, use the email address: [email protected] you prefer donating with a check, please make the check payable to One Giant Leap Foundation and mail to:One Giant Leap Foundation, 11035 Lavender Hill Drive Ste. 160-306 Las Vegas, NV 89135Upcoming Programs:Broadcast 4387: By Zoom: Friday, 6-20 @!09:30 AM PDDTDr. Robert Bishop, Texas A&M Dean on AI, Cyber, Defense Tech & SpaceBroadcast 4388: Sunday, June 22: 12 PM PDT; Dr. Karen Lloyd re her book “Intra-terrestrials: Discovering the Strangest Life on Earth”Live Streaming is at https://www.thespaceshow.com/content/listen-live with the following live streaming sites:Stream Guys https://player.streamguys.com/thespaceshow/sgplayer3/player.php#FastServ https://ic2646c302.fastserv.com/stream Thank you for subscribing. Share this episode. Get full access to The Space Show-One Giant Leap Foundation at doctorspace.substack.com/subscribe

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