Dakota Johnson’s Web Of Lies, Hilary Duff’s Secret Weapon & What Taylor Swift’s New Songs Mean
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What is the opening theme and who are the hosts of The Spill podcast?
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From Mamma Mia, welcome to the spill, your daily pop culture fix. I'm Laura Brodnik. And I'm M. Vernum. And coming up on the show today, well, we've had a bit of news from Hillary Duff about her tour being extended, but it's opened up a bigger conversation about which musicians are willing to be like a bit cringe and lean into their old fandoms and which musicians aren't, because that's been a big story in Australia today. Plus, Dakota. Johnson is back on the promo trail for her new movie Verity. And look, there are allegations from me of a split personality because she's done a very comedic video and a very intense kind of interview. So we're gonna delve into both of those. It's kind of a fascinating study of a woman who's very famous but doesn't want to be famous.
Oh, we're gonna get into that. But first, if anyone was awake last night at about midnight. Yeah. As I was, you would have seen that Taylor Swift casually dropped onto her Instagram feed to announce what was actually the story behind her new single, Patient Zero. So she announced that earlier this week. We did a conversation on the podcast about it. Brie Player, who's like our resident Swifty expert, said that she thought it was gonna be part of the showgirl. her previous album, Life of a Showgirl, was gonna be an extension of that. Um, and her theory proved to be true. So she took to her Instagram account to say that the Life of a Showgirl, The Encore, is coming this Friday and that it's gonna have a number of new songs along with Patient Zero.
So we've got Cleveland, Pink Clouding, and Babylong are listed as the extra tracks that are gonna join the Showgirl album.
When I heard this news, first when I heard like Brie's um theory about it, I was like, no, it's not gonna be Showgirl. And then I was completely proven wrong because Brie is right about every single thing, and she was definitely right about this. Um, but it was really interesting because I remember when the Showgirl album first came out, and obviously it did so, so well. It like topped the charts immediately. But I think that's just like the Taylor Swift effect. Like that's every album she puts out there. That's everything. That's everything she does, essentially. But like talking about audiences and their listening habits, it felt like the culture around that album wasn't as big as the culture from her other albums.
Like I think a lot of people, there was like so many think pieces on can Taylor Swift still write a good song even though she's so happy? And I think that was a lot of criticism from the Showgirl album. was like, this doesn't feel like a Taylor Swift album. And it's really funny because she would have s cause she sees everything. So she would have seen that and been like, you know what? I don't care. Here are four more songs for this album.
Yeah, exactly. Because it wasn't as critically acclaimed as some of her past albums. And there are a lot of different allegations coming out. Some people were saying she was trying to be like all sexy and cute, like Sabrina Carpenter. Some people were saying that she'd kind of she'd been frazzled as she's was writing them. It didn't get like the critical acclaim that um uh like the Torture Poets Department got. Yeah. And it's kind of interesting because her caption doesn't address any of the backlash, but it kind of just thinks the fans for like supporting her against this album not being critically acclaimed because in her caption announcing this encore album or these encore songs joining that album, she said, about a year ago, you guys did a truly unfathomable thing, something that completely blew my mind.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the opening theme and who are the hosts of The Spill podcast?
0:00–8:52
2
How do the hosts explain Taylor Swift’s new “Encore” song titles and their possible story?
8:52–15:27
3
Why is Dakota Johnson’s recent Vogue house‑tour video considered a “web of lies”?
15:27–20:48
4
What survival tactics does Dakota Johnson use during her Verity press tour?
20:48–27:15
5
How does Hilary Duff’s Instagram fountain video connect to Lizzie McGuire nostalgia?
27:15–33:15
6
Why did Tones and I pull out of the NRL Grand Final over the song “Dance Monkey”?
33:15–38:19
7
Do artists owe their fans the classic hits they love, according to the discussion?
38:19–45:25
8
What final thoughts do the hosts share about celebrity personas and fan expectations?
45:25–51:16
Speakers
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