Hasan Minhaj on Islam, comedy, and the spiritual life

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How does Hasan Minhaj describe the role of laughter in his spiritual life?

Hasan Minhaj 0:03
So when you even look at the early treaties that were brokered by Muhammad historically, they were between Christian and Jewish tribes and nations. And so as I got older, life put me in all these circumstances where I also felt like a caravan traveler. I mean, literally comedians are that. I wanted to be of the world in this world, but also be in the spiritual world. How do I have a spiritual tradition and path?
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 0:32
Welcome to The Spiritual Life. I'm Fr. Jim Martin. On this podcast, we reflect on how people experience God in their prayer and in their daily lives. And I'm joined by my very prayerful producer, Maggie Van Dorn. Maggie, always good to be with you.
Maggie Van Doren 0:47
Always good to be here with you, Jim. And I know we have a very special guest with us today. This is a friend of yours. Would you care to introduce him?
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 0:57
Yeah, a new friend. We are speaking with Hasan Minhaj. Can you tell us a little bit about Hasan?
Maggie Van Doren 1:04
Yeah, absolutely. As many of you may know, Hasan Minhaj is an Emmy award-winning comedian, writer, and producer. He has three Netflix specials. He was a senior correspondent on The Daily Show under Trevor Noah, and he won an Emmy and Peabody Award for his weekly show, Patriot Act with Hasan Minhaj. He currently hosts a podcast called Hasan Minhaj Doesn't Know, where in a media culture dominated by certainty, Hasan leads with curiosity, doubt, and a commitment to keep his guests laughing. And Jim, you were one of those guests very recently.
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 1:38
Yeah, I really enjoyed it. It was a kind of Catholicism 101. And the conceit of the show is Hasan Minhaj doesn't know, and so he asks questions about all sorts of topics. And our topic was Catholicism. And I just really enjoyed the conversation, enjoyed him. And particularly at the end, where I asked him about his own faith, about being a Muslim. And I thought, boy, I'd love to have him on the podcast. And I really, I know we say every guest is special, but this is really a special conversation. And I really, I learned a ton.
Maggie Van Doren 2:10
Yeah, I listened to that episode and I was struck by your openness, his openness and curiosity. And it was basically an interfaith dialogue forged in friendship. So it's definitely worth checking out. And then, of course, you know, in this conversation, the mic is turned and, you know, it's on Hasan Minhaj and he gets into his own Muslim faith and his spiritual practices and so much more.
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 2:36
Yeah, I think it's a great pricey for people who we were talking before the show, Maggie and I, that people might know a lot of Muslims, particularly if you live in a large city, but they might not know a whole lot about Islam. And he does a wonderful job of explaining his faith and his practice of it and gets very personal, too. So we're just delighted to have him on the show.
Maggie Van Doren 2:57
Yeah. Now we have an audience question this week that Father Jim and Hassan answered together. And this question comes from Spencer. And the question is, what advice do you have for someone who hasn't lived a religious life in a long time and has great doubts, but still feels called towards faith? And if you would like to ask Father Jim a question, you can write to us at thespirituallifeatamericamedia.org.
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 3:25
And now onto our conversation with Hasan Minhaj.
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 3:35
So, Hasan Minhaj, welcome to The Spiritual Life. Hey, thanks for having me, Father. I really appreciate it. Our pleasure, and thank you for coming
Hasan Minhaj 3:42
into the studio. Yeah, this is going to be great. Obviously, you've had some pretty amazing guests, Stephen Colbert. If you got Martin Scorsese, I
Fr. James Martin, S.J. 3:50
have to say yes. And now you. And now me. Yeah, so we can't top that. Now, I want to talk about your podcast, which I was delighted to be on and really had a lot of fun.

What early childhood influences shaped Hasan’s understanding of faith and comedy?

Fr. James Martin, S.J. 3:58
The premise of your podcast, and I'm going to quote, is, in a media culture dominated by certainty, you lead with curiosity, doubt, and a commitment to keep your guests laughing no matter how dark the subject matter. So to begin with, as a comedian, why is laughter important to you and what can it do for us in the spiritual life, would you say?
Hasan Minhaj 4:15
Laughter for me has really been a gift.

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