Tara Palmeri gets the first account of what happened behind closed doors during Pam Bondi's transcribed interview before the House Oversight Committee from Congressman James Walkinshaw (D-VA), who was in the room. Walkinshaw reveals that Bondi repeatedly threw acting Attorney General Todd Blanche under the bus — blaming him for the botched redactions that exposed 70-plus Epstein survivors' identities, for removing the Howard Lutnick photo from the files (claiming it was AI-generated), and for decisions she said she wasn't involved in. But the biggest bombshell: when asked point-blank whether President Trump knew about Epstein's crimes before they became public, Bondi didn't say no — she said "I don't know." Walkinshaw and Palmeri dig into why Harmeet Dhillon accompanied Bondi as a DOJ minder to block embarrassing questions, Bondi's shifting explanations for her "I've got the list on my desk" claim, why the administration is using "privilege" to withhold files in apparent violation of the Epstein Files Transparency Act, the FBI whistleblower who said agents were directed to flag mentions of Trump in the files, and whether Bondi was actually fired because Trump got frustrated with the continued media attention. Plus: the Lutnick island photo cover-up, why no one has investigated Les Wexner or Leon Black, and what a future Democratic Congress plans to do about it. 0:00 – Intro: Congressman Walkinshaw was in the room for Pam Bondi's closed-door interview 4:49 – Bondi blames Todd Blanche for exposing survivors' identities and the Lutnick photo cover-up 9:06 – "Everybody knew about Epstein" — did Trump know about the crimes? 14:00 – FBI agents directed to flag mentions of Trump in the Epstein files 19:04 – The "client list" lie, privilege loophole, and what a future Congress will d Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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