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The Tony Kornheiser Show

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14 May 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

0.031 - 26.034 Tony Kornheiser

hey it's tony can cartoon win the preakness we'll find out what andy byer has to say about that cartoon we'll also chat with johnny fontaine about his new movie and we'll talk to steve sands about the pga championship but first kids commerce previously on the tony kornheiser show We hear Arthur say, what do you mean? What do you mean?

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26.315 - 53.059 Tony Kornheiser

Because Arthur is saying, go in there and talk to him and find out why he's so bad. And what do you mean? Because Gordon is saying, you can't do that. You can't go into the locker room. And Arthur Gelb finally says, tell him it's the New York Times. It's a fantastic moment in my life. Tell him it's the New York Times. The Tony Kornheiser Show is on now.

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53.119 - 69.822 Tony Kornheiser

For those of you who heard that story yesterday, that is a totally true story. I don't want to give you the impression that... that Arthur Galvin A. Rosenthal didn't care at all about sports because they understood that sports was important. They just didn't know anything. They didn't know anything about sports.

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70.223 - 88.447 Tony Kornheiser

So when they were hanging around with a bunch of sports guys, they were sort of fish out of water at that point. And clearly they didn't know how it worked because you can't just go into the locker room at halftime even if you're the New York Times. But it's a great moment. You have to ask. Yeah. You're just not going to do it. By the way, we are the New York Times. We'd like to get into halftime.

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Right.

88.827 - 126.124 Tony Kornheiser

It doesn't happen. All right, let me begin with Rick Devins, who sends us this note. The bad news is I was voted out off the island last night. The good news is I'll be interviewed live on CBS Morning Thursday. That's now. That's today, yes. That's now, where I plan to drop a Flush the Mouse reference. We also got a note from Chuck of Chuck and Roxy.

126.256 - 147.015 Tony Kornheiser

Who writes, Mr. Tony, well, that was a hell of a run for episode 200, Rick Devins. It was so fun watching and doing a recap of every episode on the Laura Littles podcast of the Survivor season. Kind of like the old days when you did your Idol, we watched so you don't have to segments. Yeah, I used to love American Idol. Oh, yeah. I mean, I got off American Idol.

146.995 - 153.983 Tony Kornheiser

when Simon Cowell left, and also when there were 88 shows that were on on all the networks, because of course you do a copycat.

154.083 - 155.265 Unknown

You're a big The Voice guy.

Chapter 2: What happened to Loyal Little Rick Devins on Survivor?

323.995 - 341.513 Tony Kornheiser

I got the 5-4 really quickly. Yeah, 4 in the second. Yeah, it's 6-6 at some point in the 7th or the 8th. And I go over to the basketball game, Detroit-Cleveland, and I get stuck on that, and I don't go back to the Nats. So, Michael, a recap of why, because it went to extras.

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Yeah, so the last third of the game, it actually, you know, good bullpen game. Both teams have chances. Surprising. The Reds had better chances. I think there was a leadoff double in the bottom of the ninth, and they were able to get out of that.

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And then you have the top, and they start sharing, the TV guys start sharing the stat about if you get two or more runs, it's a ridiculous number as to you going to win the game. and we get a monster home run by Dalen Lyle. It is immediately out. So that's his third home run in two days. Yeah. And you just see a dad walking down the aisle, and you find out it's his dad.

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380.426 - 399.152 Unknown

It's just like the most universal dad language. He knows it's out. He knows that it could be the game winner. You have to get through the bottom of the inning. But there's just this energy of, I got nowhere else to go. I got to go down. I got to go see the kid. It's just walking down to the fence. Yeah, so that's lovely. Yeah, apparently I think he's from... He's from Ohio, I guess.

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399.172 - 417.851 Unknown

Yeah, I think he's like an hour and a half away. So, but the Reds almost tied it. This is why it was so exciting to watch. So it's, you know... There ends up being a runner on third, I think it was. And then it looks like... Nats up two. Yeah, the Nats are up two. And again, that first run doesn't really matter because you're just trying to get outs here.

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And it looks like there's a home run over the left field wall. James Wood immediately points up. You think, is it below the line? Would it have stayed in, bounced off the wall? He immediately points up for interference. They go and review it. And it was, in fact, interference. But then when you start to look at it, you go, the camera shot that we get, it looks clear.

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But then from the side is the potential that it actually was arcing out. And then the sort of the... So how long did it take to clarify this? In real time, it was quick. Okay.

444.197 - 454.916 Tony Kornheiser

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So Nats win. The Nats win. They're like one game under now. Yeah. And they're beating a team, you know, in that division where the Reds are, every team was over 500. Yeah, that's a nice win.

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Yeah.

Chapter 3: How did the Colorado Avalanche achieve their comeback victory?

620.141 - 622.044 Unknown

Yeah, he was immediately birdied the first two.

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622.204 - 646.714 Tony Kornheiser

Good for him. Good for him. At least he's not the Northwestern one, so I can root for him. Yeah. ESPN has the first two days of the Masters. And they celebrate that for like the week before the Masters. Yeah, the six weeks before. They have the first two days of the PGA. And I think we're the only show that even mentioned the PGA. I don't know. It's a major. It's not.

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646.814 - 671.693 Tony Kornheiser

Look, nothing is as prestigious as the Masters. Of course. Nothing in golf. But it's still a major. Anyway, so we will talk to Steve Sands about that. We will talk to Andy Beyer about the Preakness and about the Derby and get a pick or two. Remind him that further ado is still running, apparently. And we will be back. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to The Tony Kornheiser Show.

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673.478 - 686.378 Tony Kornheiser

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752.262 - 776.252 Tony Kornheiser

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776.292 - 794.855 Tony Kornheiser

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Chapter 4: What were the highlights of the Nationals' thrilling game?

931.286 - 957.235 Andy Beyer

Well, I guess these days you should never be surprised when horses bypass the race. I mean, that has become the... you know, the increasing trend in racing and, you know, as the, you know, he, you know,

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957.788 - 987.002 Andy Beyer

You know, so many, when the Daily Racing Forum surveyed the horses, the trainers of horses who were in the derby and asked who was running in the Preakness, the first day after, nobody would commit to it. I mean, trainers are just very reluctant to bring their horses back in two weeks. I think it's crazy, but that's the prevailing situation.

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988.012 - 1021.18 Andy Beyer

My explanation for it, at least this year, is that last year Bill Lott did the same thing with sovereignty. He was the best horse in the world. He just said, no, we don't want to run him back this quickly. Well, there's probably nobody in the game who is more respected by other trainers than Bill Mott. I mean, he is a person of the highest integrity.

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1021.581 - 1048.95 Andy Beyer

He is regarded as a flawless caretaker of his horses. When he says, I don't want to run back in two weeks, it gives cover to any trader who has some reluctance of doing this. And, you know, 10 years ago, this was not an issue. But now...

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1048.93 - 1064.205 Andy Beyer

Trainers have gotten so conservative, and I don't fully understand the reason, but nobody wants to take the risk, if there is one, of running off a two-week layoff.

1064.32 - 1079.325 Tony Kornheiser

So it begs this question, how do we keep the Triple Crown? Presumably the Triple Crown is still the holy grail in horse racing. How do we keep it? Because if you skip the Preakness, there ain't no Triple Crown.

1079.93 - 1108.64 Andy Beyer

Well, we've talked about this on many radio shows in recent years. I mean, the answer is staring at everybody in the face is that you've got to change. the, uh, you've got to change the schedule somewhat. I mean, Churchill Downs is, you know, has, uh, uh, you know, seems to have lifetime rights on the first Saturday in May.

1109.021 - 1140.543 Andy Beyer

It shouldn't be that hard to, you know, to find two other dates, you know, that, that for the other races that would work for everybody. So far it has been an obstacle, but there is a, an article in, uh, You know, in the Thurber Daily News just recently about T.D. Thornton, who went over all the possibilities for a Triple Crown schedule. And, you know, this is not Roxette's side.

1140.563 - 1178.237 Andy Beyer

She said, you know, run each race on the first lap. Saturday of the month, May, June, and July. I'm sure any of the tracks can find a reason to object, but that just makes sense. Nobody can say it's too taxing on their horses. You know, it would, I'm sure, work out with the television networks. But, you know, for years, I mean, racing just hasn't been smart enough to deal with this.

Chapter 5: Why is Cleveland considered a strong team in the East?

1608.374 - 1624.557 Steve Sands

They'll be on ESPN until way beyond happy hour. Thank God PTI got canceled tomorrow. They'll be going on until almost 8 o'clock p.m. after signing their card and doing their interviews. It's all about TV. Do it early. Do it late. Put some guys in the middle as well and

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1624.537 - 1632.708 Tony Kornheiser

Have a day. What's the forecast in terms of weather for the rest of the week? Because I think it's chilly today. Yeah, it's a little chilly here in the morning.

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1632.748 - 1656.48 Steve Sands

It's a little chilly this morning. But, in fact, Bryson DeChambeau is just a whack job. He bought out a big parka right before he was on the first tee. And Dave Fleming on ESPN had a very good line. He goes, that's going to be tough to stuff in the side of your bag. It was a huge, huge parka, like a big puffy coat, like what Seinfeld was wearing back in the day. The weather's going to be fine.

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1656.54 - 1665.534 Steve Sands

It's going to be really warm on the weekend. Not a lot of wind. No rain in the forecast. It's all systems go. All four days are going to be good weather-wise.

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1665.895 - 1686.267 Tony Kornheiser

We did this story yesterday. Who are the best stories? And, of course, Wilbon looks in the camera and says, I don't care. I don't care who wins. Don't tell me who wins. I don't care. That's Ruban's thing, which is just ridiculous. And so I had to say all the things that I said. But in your opinion, what winner would be a really good story?

1687.109 - 1692.016 Steve Sands

He doesn't care. He's also going to say that the Pistons didn't collapse last night either against the Cavaliers.

1692.217 - 1701.692 Tony Kornheiser

Yeah, he cares about the NBA. If you say, who's going to win? He'll say, well, I've got 12 options here. I'm sorry, what was the question? You know, good stories to win.

1701.908 - 1724.267 Steve Sands

Oh, man, there's so many terrific storylines. You know, look, can McElroy win, you know, another major, you know, becoming the first guy since Spieth in 2015 to go back-to-back in the first two majors of the year? Can Jordan Spieth? That would be the biggest story by far. If Spieth wins this week, by far it's the biggest story because he would join those guys as a career Grand Slam winner.

1724.327 - 1751.661 Steve Sands

This is his 10th attempt at trying to win the career Grand Slam. You know, can a guy like... Alex Fitzpatrick, keep it going. I'm watching Ricky Fowler. Can Ricky Fowler get it back? He came so close last week. Justin Rose is 45 years of age, Tony. He's won his U.S. Open in Philly, which is where this is. And he was a winner at Aronamink in 2010.

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