Totally Extra: Zinedine Zidane - is he all that?

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Who is Zinedine Zidane and why is he considered a football legend?

James Richardson 0:02
The athletic FC.
James Richardson 0:09
Totally Extra. Today, Zinadin Zidane. The best control since Joy Division. The most infamous butt since Samixalot. From his beginnings in Marseille to the glory of his goal in Glasgow to his blowout in Berlin. We salute Zizou and ask, he's an icon, but was he actually all that good? Totally extra on Zizou.
James Richardson 0:43
Friday the twenty fifth of September. We've got a brand new Totally Extra for you featuring Hey Tom Williams. Hello, James Richardson. Hey Julian Laurence. Bonjour. Bonjour. And hello from Amsterdam, Michael Cox. Hi, James. Hi, nice to see you all. This is the day. The Zinidin Zidane debuts as France manager and we've gathered together for a very, very special look at at the icon perhaps The legend The man who, as one listener asked, was he all that? Yep. Big question for us. Big question for us. Here's another listener. Kietel DeVernis says, Yes, Coxy's in the lineup. Don't gloss over Zinedin's bad and anonymous seasons. The most overrated player of all time. Wow, that's a big shower.
Julien Laurens 1:38
Did Michael write this tweet himself? Maybe a burner account?
James Richardson 1:44
M it's true, Michael. You find yourself at the head of a a A kind of church of Zidane truthers. You're like the Greta Thunberg of uh of Zidane non believers.
Michael Cox 1:54
Yeah, I'll take that. Can I say some nice things about him at the start? Yeah. I mean he was amazingly talented, no question about that.

What made Zidane’s playing style so special compared to other greats?

Michael Cox 2:04
There was a period where he was the best player in the world around Euro two thousand. International career, I think pretty stellar, showed up in Euros and World Cups. And the goal he scored in the two thousand two Chamber's League final was as good a goal as you'll see. I think the issue for Zidane was just did he play consistently well over the course of the season? And I think by and large He didn't. So that is my issue with Zidane. I don't doubt that he looks great in a YouTube compilation of ten minutes. He looks like the best player ever. But I think of all the players who are regarded as greats He probably if you were to rank every Zidane performance out of ten, which would obviously take you quite a long time, I expect it would be lower than for any other of the great players in history.
Michael Cox 2:46
That's my view on Zidane from the top.
Tom Williams 2:49
Surely surely that's gotta be your next piece. I watched every Zinadine Zidane performance and rated it out again. It's the only way. It's the only way we'll know.
Julien Laurens 2:58
Yeah. And then do the average and then we'll know, you know, and the average was five point six or something like
James Richardson 3:04
that. Jules, as a Frenchman, is there an intangible quality about Zizou what he represents that goes beyond what say non French people might understand? What's your take?
Julien Laurens 3:14
Yeah, I think so. I but I also agree with Coxy in the in the consistency of you know, through his own career, you know, some games in the Champions League bar that final in O two. Um some d the red cards. I think fourteen red cards for I mean for any players is far too many, but for number ten, probably even more. So uh there's there's clearly a lot of things that were not that great about him in his playing career. But I still think that in terms of technical ability and pure technical ability, and again Adel Tarabt had pure technical ability and a temp and alpha as well. I'm not saying that this is just the the end all of you know be all and end all or whatever you say, but I still think that he was pretty incredible on that level.
Julien Laurens 3:56
And and yeah, I think a lot of the current players who who idolise him so much, corr including his own players right now with France. also grew up watching those highlight reels that Michael mentioned of ten minutes where you see all the technical brilliance or genius even that he had.

How did Zidane’s humble beginnings in Marseille shape his career?

Julien Laurens 4:13
And yeah, if you just watch that, it's pretty pretty pretty impressive, really. But on what he also brought w what or what he meant to us outside of even the performances that he could have had or the World Cup or the Euros and things like that. It's the whole story of immigrants' parents, you know, coming to France and him growing up in this super tough council estate in Marseille and then just making it to the top and being the the the most popular French figure, not just in sports but in in every an any any kind of celebrities really and and that is very special.

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