In this episode Caroline and Liz have the evidence from Dr Ravi Jayaram. He accepted that he should have done more sooner to stop Lucy Letby from harming babies. He said he should have been braver and more courageous in speaking up, but he said his concerns initially seemed "outlandish".He also told the Thirlwall Inquiry that after Lucy Letby was eventually moved off the ward she told him she'd be back "whether he liked it or not."And he said the recommendations from the inquiry into Beverley Allitt's crimes should be embedded in all medical safeguarding training.The Trial of Lucy Letby is part of the Crime Desk. Press here to subscribe today for ad-free listening, full access to all our shows, early access to new shows, and bonus episodes.Follow us on Instagram @TheTrialPod.Follow us on TikTok @dailymailcrimeFollow us on X @thetrialpodcastSubscribe to our YouTube channel @TheCrimeDeskEmail us [email protected] us +447796657512 (start your message with ‘Trial’) Click here to sign up for The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world.Hosts: Caroline Cheetham and Liz HullProducer: Chelsey RanoreCreative director: Caroline CheethamExecutive Producer: Jamie EastProduction Manager: Vittoria CecchiniA Daily Mail production. Seriously Popular.Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informationLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLearn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesFollow us at @thetrialpodEmail us at [email protected] a comment on Spotify or send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial')A Daily Mail Production.Seriously Popular.Click here to sign up to The Crime Desk's weekly newsletter. It's free and packed with exclusive interviews, expert insight, and gripping deep dive investigations from across the world. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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