Dave Smith: Mossad, WWII Myths, FBI Cover-Ups, and Trump’s Critical Next Move in Iran
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What challenges does the propaganda machine face today?
So it does seem like in addition to everything, first of all, Dave, thank you, as always. We're late because we just had such a long breakfast, two and a half hour breakfast. I hope this conversation could be as interesting as our breakfast just was. But in addition to everything else changing, you made such a smart point a minute ago about the means of convincing the public. The propaganda machine is completely broken. And so what does that mean? You're in the middle of a war, you're in the middle of a massive power shift globally, like everything is changing, the economy, military strength, like everything, and it's impossible to know who is telling the truth. Like who comes out more credible in this, in the media?
Like who are the people you listen to? What's that look like?
Well, I think everybody who's being authentic, I think, is who's coming out ahead of this. It seems like if you look at like the podcast numbers, you know what I mean? Like it's the people who are being critical of the regime's policies. It's the people, you know, from my perspective, the people who are telling the truth. And so in the media world, I think there's been. this, you know, as you know, because you were in the old media world for so long. Only 35 years, not a big deal.
Okay, not that long.
A little bit. You put a little bit of time in.
I'm implicated, yes.
But look, I always thought, and I mean this, I used to watch you back on your MSNBC show, and you were always... one of the very few kind of authentic people. Even when you were wrong about stuff and things that you look back on and you're like, oh, I've changed my mind about all that. But it's an incredibly phony world. Like news in general, there's something about it that's very, you know, it's very welcome back to the six o'clock news and blah, you know, it's just like, what is that? That's not how you talk.
Credibility doesn't derive from being right about everything. Credibility derives from being honest.
Yes, yes.
How has public trust in media shifted during crises?
But so I think after the first 20 years or so, first 15 years of the 21st century, and at this point, we're 26 years into the 21st century now, it's a – The government, every single crisis that's happened, and we've had quite a few, you know, at 9-11, and we had the global war on terrorism, we had the huge financial crash in 2008, we had COVID, we had that. Okay, so on every single crisis, the government and the media just lied through their teeth to the American people and got exposed. Like, it's not like anyone now thinks, like, maybe Saddam really did have weapons of mass destruction. We all know. We all know if you get the vaccine, you can get COVID. Turns out you can get COVID even after having the vaccine, as everyone who got the vaccine also got COVID, or just about.
And so it was like all these phonies in media lying us, on behalf of power, lying to us about these policies. And at the same time, as they were getting exposed for all of this, and I do think COVID did it almost more than anything, because the global war on terrorism was over there, but COVID was over here and affected everyone. Also, obviously, the, you know, covering for a clearly... senile president was a pretty easy one for everyone to see through. But so while all that was happening, also the technology simultaneously got to a point where you can do this, for a reasonable amount of money. You know what I mean? In 1980, if you wanted to set up your own TV studio, you needed a corporation to get behind you, because who had the resources?
Whereas everyone now can open their computer. If you have a phone, you can record yourself and put it out there. So the technology allowed for tremendous parody, and the lying us into all of these disasters resulted in people really craving authenticity. And so, you know, it's just like the propaganda machine got broken. Now to your point, the policies are still going on and that just creates a very interesting new time. Like there just, there never was, I cannot imagine if while George W. Bush was trying to push the war in Iraq, let's say for all of 2002, they spent the full year building the case for what?
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Chapters
7 chapters
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What challenges does the propaganda machine face today?
0:04–1:59
2
How has public trust in media shifted during crises?
1:59–14:51
3
What are the implications of the broken propaganda machine?
14:51–1:20:14
4
What are the implications of dark forces in today's society?
1:20:14–1:21:18
5
How does financial influence shape political narratives?
1:21:18–1:23:46
6
What role does the Mossad play in global intelligence?
1:23:46–1:27:15
7
How do personal relationships affect political dynamics?
1:27:15–2:40:50
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