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Vadym Novynskyi: Zelensky’s Mission to End Christianity in Ukraine & Why America Is Still Funding It

Fri, 23 May 2025

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Do Americans have any idea that Zelensky has declared war on Christianity in Ukraine? Vadym Novynskyi knows. He spent three terms in the Ukrainian parliament but now risks prison for defending his church. (00:00) Zelensky’s Attempt to Ban Christianity in Ukraine (04:31) Why Is the Rest of the World Ignoring the Christian Persecution in Ukraine? (08:20) Is Novynskyi Worried He’ll Be Killed for Speaking Out? (12:59) Why Is Speaker Mike Johnson and Congress Still Funding the Persecution of Christians? (20:26) Why Did Zelensky Push to Join NATO Knowing Putin Would Invade? Paid partnerships with: PureTalk: Go to https://PureTalk.com/Tucker to make the switch Jase Medical: Go to https://Jase.com and use code TUCKER at checkout for a discount Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Chapter 1: What is Zelensky's campaign against Christianity in Ukraine?

0.529 - 18.858 Tucker Carlson

Thank you for joining us. I think very few Americans understand the degree to which the Ukrainian government under Zelensky has persecuted the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Can you give us an overview of what your government has done to your church?

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22.453 - 45.277 Vadym Novynskyi

Unfortunately, our government, led by Zelensky, has opened up a campaign of persecution and depression against the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, the largest church in Ukraine, the largest denomination of Christians in Ukraine. Before the war, there were 12,000 parishes and 7 million believers in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

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46.137 - 71.933 Vadym Novynskyi

And despite the fact that it's the largest denomination and that 95-97% voted for Zelensky as the President of Peace, he is doing this to our Church. He's persecuting and oppressing our Church. Over the past 10 years, persecution has intensified. And currently, right now, it is leading to terrible consequences.

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73.314 - 103.069 Vadym Novynskyi

As you know, in parliament, a law has been passed which actually, in fact, bans the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. So our archbishops are subjected to persecution, there are completely false criminal cases opened up against them, our parishioners beaten, our church is taken away, so Satanism is flourishing in Ukraine. So some metropolitans are in prison, some are under house arrest.

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Chapter 2: Why is the world ignoring Christian persecution in Ukraine?

103.83 - 129.385 Vadym Novynskyi

Some examples are metropolitan Arseny, who's currently in prison, who's the head of the Sovetogorsk Collaborative. He's in prison under completely false accusations. Metropolitan Firosy, metropolitan Luka, metropolitan Anthony, they're all under house arrest. Another big example is Metropolitan Longinus, who actually has an orphanage in his church, which has more than 600 disabled children.

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129.745 - 160.694 Vadym Novynskyi

He's a man of love, and he's still being persecuted, all for being faithful to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church. Every day, churches and temples are seized by soldiers with machine guns who come in, who throw out priests, beat believers, children, old people, women, countless priests, countless attempts of Chernovitsky, which is a temple that's been attempted to be taken over.

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161.294 - 183.853 Vadym Novynskyi

So every day it is happening all over Ukraine. One cannot help but feel deeply dissatisfied with these events, and one cannot help but fear that our churches may continue to experience this persecution from the government.

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197.609 - 202.378 Tucker Carlson

Why do you suppose Zelensky is doing this? What is his motive?

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Chapter 3: Is Vadym Novynskyi worried about his safety?

212.452 - 232.944 Vadym Novynskyi

It is important to understand the atmosphere that currently prevails in the country. It is basically inciting hatred is the basis of politics. The hatred that is based on lies, deceit. Our church tells the truth. Our church exposes sin, and our church basically is, right now, it's a favorable time for our church.

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233.485 - 245.938 Vadym Novynskyi

Everyone can show their loyalty and faith despite all the persecution, despite all of the oppression. We pray for the authorities. We pray for Zelensky that at one point they may come to their senses and stop.

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246.738 - 259.865 Vadym Novynskyi

We truly hope that Zelensky may fulfill his promise and restore religious peace because 95 to 97 percent voted for Zelensky, voted for him as a peace president and for him to stop the religious hatred going on in our country.

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261.084 - 264.045 Unknown Speaker

Why do you think the world has ignored this attack on Christianity in Ukraine?

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Chapter 4: Why is Congress funding the persecution of Christians?

279.424 - 295.045 Vadym Novynskyi

I can tell you that a year ago it was impossible to say a word of truth in the Western press, even the American press, about what is happening to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Ukraine. There was a whole block on the truth of what is happening in religious life in Ukraine.

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296.929 - 323.751 Vadym Novynskyi

And the first person to break this wall of silence was you, who invited Robert Amsterdam, who is the official representative of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, who began speaking the truth, and you broadcast this truth. And for this, thank you. And a big thank you to J.D. Vance, who, while he was still a congressman, raised his voice in support of our church.

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326.768 - 343.224 Vadym Novynskyi

He was the only politician in the West who defended our church. At that time, it was extremely important for us. But apart from you, no other serious publication would publish and would show what kind of attacks are taking place on the Ukrainian Orthodox Church in Ukraine.

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349.891 - 359.599 Vadym Novynskyi

Because Zelensky was given a vote of confidence and in the eyes of the Western public he became a leader of the nation and anything that he was doing was accepted without question.

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360.08 - 361.801 Unknown Speaker

But Zelensky is...

372.964 - 387.994 Tucker Carlson

Not an elected president at this point. He's gone past his term and there has been no election. So he has, from what I can tell, no authority to do this. By what authority is he doing this?

393.09 - 417.569 Vadym Novynskyi

Well, it's the authority that he usurped for himself. Basically, in accordance with the Constitution, there's an elected term of five years, and the president cannot be elected for more than that. This decision was made in May 2014, but everyone forgot about it. Now the Constitutional Court is not working. It was destroyed by Zelensky. So there's no way to confirm or affirm.

417.589 - 420.611 Vadym Novynskyi

There's no way to basically legitimize his role.

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529.383 - 537.49 Tucker Carlson

So you're describing a dictatorship. Are you worried about your safety after saying something like this?

540.465 - 568.276 Vadym Novynskyi

Just appearing on your show, I already have an understanding that I will be further persecuted by the Zelensky government authorities. As you know, I'm under sanctions. I was personally sanctioned by Zelensky. He signed three decrees imposing sanctions on me under various pretexts. I have various criminal investigations going on against me for false and groundless accusations.

572.121 - 598.227 Vadym Novynskyi

and after this interview and after i say what i think is happening in our country i am sure that there will be more persecution against me but i'm not afraid It's actually illegal to impose sanctions against a Ukrainian citizen. There's only one instance where you can, which is when it's been proven that he was financing terrorist activities.

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