The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
161. Shayna Taylor: Healing Chronic Anxiety and Gut Inflammation by Returning to Nature
29 Apr 2025
Chapter 1: Who is Shayna Taylor and what is her health journey?
It's a great story, but I'm going to share the honest part of it because I think everybody needs to know.
Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Brekka, where we go down the road of everything anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And we have a super treat for you guys today, a really, really unique guest. I mean, my wife is in love with me. with this guest and so is my daughter. And I think so many of you know who she is.
And I think she exemplifies everything about society today when you reach the point where you just say the heck with it. And you hear me talk all the time about how my favorite thought leaders in our space, anti-aging, biohacking specialists, scientists, researchers, functional medicine doctors, they're all getting back to the basics. So today is gonna be an amazing podcast about
getting back to the basics. So welcome to the podcast, Gina Taylor.
Thank you. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.
Your journey is so, it's so unique, but I want to say it's like, it's inspiring because I think you probably have a lot of people go,
gosh I wish I could just do that you know my my I'm stuck in this job or this relationship or you know my kids are in school or whatever it is and they just don't have the gumption to do it I wonder if you just share your story with my audience yeah of course I I actually get those messages every single day yeah we were just talking about it yeah yeah every single day I have people write me about how they wish they could move or it's a plan that they have in a two or three years to
move to the countryside somewhere or to Italy specifically. But yeah, so my journey is a wild one. So I'm born and raised California. I got into the health and wellness space in my early twenties when I went to culinary school for college and became really passionate about food. I also was a model for many years, which was very counterintuitive to each other.
Um, but that's what kind of like pushed me towards wanting to be more on the health side of things versus a traditional chef. And then I had a lot of, uh, of my own health problems, uh, especially related to like gut health and, um, you know, specific things around skin and, uh,
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Chapter 2: Why did Shayna decide to move to Italy and buy farmland?
I always had this drive to want to move to Italy and buy farmland and like be a farmer and grow my own produce and have my animals. And like, that was my dream, the chickens, like all this stuff. And I was just like, I thought that it was going to be something in my life that I did when I was like 45.
You know, I didn't think that it was going to be in the next couple of years from when I was dreaming about it. Right.
Right.
And then I started deep diving into spiritual practices because I was trying to not only heal myself from the relationship of eight years, but also all of the things that brought me to be in an unhealthy relationship. And childhood stuff that I felt I just didn't unravel because I was just in survival mode.
And, uh, through that process, I, my drive to want to leave LA and go live a different life just became stronger. And then I, my family knew I was thinking about moving. So we decided to spend Christmas there, uh, for holiday. And I had this attachment and in spirituality, you start to learn about non-attachment. So I And I had an attachment to my house because it was my first house I ever owned.
I like made it exactly how I wanted it. It was a content creator's house. And I was building my social media following then and building all my recipes. So I was like, wow, to leave this house feels like very daunting, but like it doesn't make sense for me. Then I was like, do I rent it?
But then I was like, no, because then I can't invest in a property in Italy because, you know, it's like I needed to sell it to then have this dream. So I literally, I'll never forget, I woke up one morning and I was journaling and meditating and this was very new to me at the time.
I started with a five minute journal and it took me months to integrate it into my life because I was so used to waking up and just going straight into my work, running away from my underlying anxiety. Which I learned later in life. I didn't realize that I was just running on the crazy cycle because I was trying to run away from the underlying anxiety I had.
But I just woke up one day and I was like, you know what? I think I'm ready to sell this house. This was October. I was supposed to leave for Christmas December. So I was like, if my house sells before Christmas, I will go. I'll just basically go on a whim and not take anything with me except for three suitcases. So I put my house on the market and it sold two weeks later. And I was like, okay.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did Shayna face buying property and starting a business in Italy?
For us, for instance, a small example, if you use your personal Amazon, but you use your business card for something, you can justify it for tax reasons or for stuff in America. Of course, you should open a business Amazon account. I'm not saying not to do that, but that's a small thing that I've never had to think about because it's easy for us to justify it.
In Italy, even though I'm the owner of the business, It was the business credit card and it was under my personal Amazon account. They take it as I stole money for my own personal buyings from Amazon, from the company. So I personally had to wire the money back to the company to justify the money when I never spent it.
Wow. So you owned a business.
Yes.
You used a business card for personal things.
No, business card for business things. Business card for business things. So like I used my business card in Italy. But it was your Amazon personal card. Exactly. So it was like for farm stuff. It was like you can clearly see it was like stuff for the chickens and like- Random farm supplies. Like I would never use that.
It's for it, but they literally, it doesn't matter because I use it on my own personal Amazon. They consider it that I stole money from the company. So I had to wire all the Amazon accounts, like whatever I spent on my Amazon back to my agriculture company to pay it back for the books of finance. Wow.
Wow.
And I was like, this is a small example, but like, you just don't think about those things, you know? But anyway, so I'm going to tell you in short, like a little bit about this story. So I started looking at properties with my family and we were in Christmas and I stumbled upon this property, which blew my mind.
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Chapter 4: How did Shayna learn about regenerative and biodynamic farming?
Chapter 5: What is the lifestyle difference between Italy and the USA according to Shayna?
In Italy is like insane. They love food. They love community. They love long meals. Even me, before I moved there, I could go and eat all the pasta and cheese I wanted and it wouldn't affect my gut and my skin. Most people have their own garden, produce their own olive oil. You know, it's normal for them. That's their life. And they appreciate the ingredients.
Because it is back to the basics. There's your grass fed meats, your raw dairies, you know, all of the things that in Italy are just the norm. And here they're the exception.
Food became transactional, which is our biggest problem. You go to the market, you have no idea where anything's from. You buy it in plastic, you check it out, you pay for your credit card, and then you go home and you eat it.
If you walk into your grocery store and they have a health food section, what does it say about the rest of the store?
As Americans, we're so spoiled in the way that things are quite easy for us to do.
We're so disconnected from Mother Nature and we're actually disconnected from each other.
I find it so cool to learn about how nature used to work before we manipulated it so much. This kind of started my journey, not only in entrepreneurship, but also this journey of like, I'm ready for something new.
Talk a little bit about what led you here and what inspired you to put this together and like, what does it entail?
It's a great story, but I'm going to share the honest part of it because I think everybody needs to know.
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