The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka
163. Dean Graziosi: The ‘7 Levels Deep’ Exercise That Transformed His Life And It Can Transform Yours!
Tue, 06 May 2025
Most people just start their success journey expecting results to flow naturally, but they’re missing a critical first step, understanding their deepest “why.” In this captivating episode, New York Times Bestselling author and Tony Robbins’ business partner, Dean Graziosi, reveals his powerful “7 Levels Deep” exercise that unlocked his true driving force, not money or fame, but a profound need for control stemming from childhood instability. When you understand your deep motivations, you’ll run toward challenges instead of retreating. Join the Ultimate Human VIP community and gain exclusive access to Gary Brecka's proven wellness protocols today!: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Join the free 3-day live event, “Thrive in 2025,” by registering here: https://thrive900.com/ Thank you to our partners: H2TABS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg BODYHEALTH - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BAJA GOLD - USE CODE "ULTIMATE10" FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa EIGHT SLEEP - SAVE $350 ON THE POD 4 ULTRA WITH CODE “GARY”: https://bit.ly/3WkLd6E COLD LIFE - THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp WHOOP - GET 1 FREE MONTH WHEN YOU JOIN!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW MASA CHIPS - GET 20% OFF YOUR FIRST ORDER: https://bit.ly/40LVY4y VANDY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/49Qr7WE AION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD HAPBEE - FEEL BETTER & PERFORM AT YOUR BEST: https://bit.ly/4a6glfo CARAWAY - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3Q1VmkC HEALF - GET 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S BIOPTIMIZERS - USE CODE “ULTIMATE” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4inFfd7 RHO NUTRITION - USE CODE “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: https://bit.ly/44fFza0 GENETIC TEST: https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 Connect with Gary Brecka: Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 X.com: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:51 Dean Graziosi’s Journey 09:02 Having the Right Mindset to be Successful 12:36 Why Do You Work So Hard? 16:15 “7 Levels Deep” 20:30 Finding One’s Purpose and Taking Action 25:30 Definition of Courage for Dean 30:17 Shifting Your Inner Monologue 35:15 What’s Holding You Back? 39:02 What Drives Dean? 47:15 Overcoming Setbacks 53:30 Shifting Perspectives and Building Resilience 01:01:51 Dean’s Fitness Routine 1:08:50 Follow Dean’s Works 1:10:40 What does it mean to you to be an “Ultimate Human?” The Ultimate Human with Gary Brecka Podcast is for general informational purposes only and does not constitute the practice of medicine, nursing or other professional health care services, including the giving of medical advice, and no doctor/patient relationship is formed. The use of information on this podcast or materials linked from this podcast is at the user’s own risk. The Content of this podcast is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Users should not disregard or delay in obtaining medical advice for any medical condition they may have and should seek the assistance of their health care professionals for any such conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What is the main topic of this episode?
When you face rejection, conflict, when you face problems, instead of retreating, you might not love it, but you run into the fire to fix it. And people say, find your purpose, find your passion job. Sometimes you gotta get dirty, fail, and be in it enough to go, damn, this is worth fighting for.
My dad used to say, life is what happens to you when you're on your way to doing something else. Get in there, roll your sleeves up, fail a little bit, because I think we all crave that safety. We don't want to leave the nest unless we have a fully baked plan.
Chapter 2: How did Dean Graziosi's childhood shape his mindset?
So if you don't have a strong enough purpose and why, the outside world will control you. You'll play small. You'll sit on your hands rather than saying, now is the time, not tomorrow, not next week. This purpose is so strong, nothing in my way. I got to go.
When you find something that you would otherwise do for free, that you love to do, you really don't feel like you work a day in your life. If you look from the outside in, it seems like I'm working my ass off, but that's what I love to do. Like when I'm on vacation, I want to do this.
If you think about it, most of us get hit with stuff. It's not your fault, but it is your responsibility to do something about it.
if someone's listening to this right now and they just feel sort of stuck and maybe overwhelmed what's a shift that they could make that could change that direction i would love for you if take nothing else in this podcast is every time you think you have the answer Hey guys, welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast.
I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Brekka, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, biohacking, longevity, and everything in between. And today's guest is a very special guest. I've actually stalked him from afar on social media. I've been to a number of events that he's spoken at.
He's an impactful speaker, an entrepreneur, multiple New York Times bestselling author, and he has recently become a very good friend of mine. Welcome to the podcast, Dean Graziosi.
So good to be here, Gary.
Dude, I'm so excited that you're here. And you know what happens to me so many times when I have guests over and I should have a rule that you have to go from the elevator to the podcast room because we ended up doing a podcast.
Oh yeah, we did a podcast just now.
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Chapter 3: What is the '7 Levels Deep' exercise?
And when I, you know, I obviously knew who you were and your work with Tony Robbins and, you know, what an icon you are for so many entrepreneurs. But when I started to peel back the layers of like, who is Dean Graziosi? You didn't really have like a privileged upbringing by any means, right?
Probably as privileged as yours. Yeah.
And it's always exciting for me to talk about, what was the problem that you solved? I've had so many people sit in that chair that they were a soccer mom and they were plagued by Lyme disease and they became a citizen scientist and they solved their Lyme disease.
And now they're one of the most impactful speakers or they were a drug addict or an alcoholic and they overcame the addiction and now they're one of the biggest voices in that industry. So what was your journey like that set you on the path to where you are now?
Really great question. And first off, before I get started, I just want to say, same for you. I've been watching you. My wife fell in love with how you speak and how clear you are and how you give transferable information so freely. Meaning, when I say transferable, there's a lot of great people, doctors, physicians, and people out there that are helping. Sometimes it feels so out of reach.
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Chapter 4: How can one find their true purpose?
And what you're so good at is taking complicated things and making it simple for all of us to go, hey, I could get healthier doing that. I just want to say watching you grow has been a privilege and a pleasure. And we had passed each other a million times. So I was glad we finally got to meet.
Some of the same events on the stage.
Amazing stuff. And it's a privilege to be here. You know, if I think about it, not to go too deep on my story, I'm here for you guys that are listening and watching right now. But if you think about this, there's a philosophy that I didn't say this for the last 40 years of my life, but it's something that hit me a couple of years ago.
And if you're watching right now, listening right now, you know you're someone that's meant for more, you want to do more, you want to be healthy, you want to live into your full potential, live longer, impact more, just do more, right? Right. But if you think about it, most of us get hit with stuff.
Yeah.
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Chapter 5: What does courage mean to Dean Graziosi?
Right. Whatever that stuff is. And there's a philosophy that I've been living by. I probably have lived by it for a long time, but now I say it is, it's not your fault. It might not be your fault that your parents didn't tell you they loved you. It might not be your fault that you got Lyme disease. It might not be your fault that no one believed in your dreams.
It's not your fault that the economy could go a certain way or tariffs or inflation or, but it is your responsibility to do something about it.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think those that have the opportunity to live into their healthiest self, their most successful self, to live into where they're meant to be, not settling to be, realize it's on them. Right? It's not your fault those things happen.
Yeah.
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Chapter 6: How can you shift your inner dialogue?
But how do you take that and make that into fuel in your life rather than the anchor? Now, I know this is a made-up story. Then I'll get to my story really quick. But did you ever hear that it's probably a made-up story about twins?
No.
So one twin is a drug addict in and out of jail. And they say, how did this happen to you? And he said, my father was physically abusive. and drank too much. And he was so mean to me. How else could I turn out? And they went to the other brother who was massively successful, happily married with kids. And they said, Hey, how did you become so successful?
He said, my father was a drug addict in and out of prison. What else could I be? Wow. Right? Yeah. So one found a way to use it as fuel, as the wind behind their sail, and the other is an anchor. And I think that's our job in life. How do we take what happened to us and make it the inspiration, not the anchor?
Do you think it's a difference between a victim mentality? And I've heard victor and victim, but, you know, very often we start to repeat patterns in our life because we feel like things are happening to us. Like they're out of our control.
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Chapter 7: What holds people back from success?
Yeah. And you know what I think? I probably would have said victim or the opposite side mentality years ago. But what I realized now is some people just aren't taught how to think differently, how that they can actually change their childhood. They could change their past. They could change the meaning of things. So, so you asked me a little bit about me. What was that thing?
If I go back to my earliest memory, I mean, for you, there has to be, there has to be a new compelling future that you create for yourself every year. You've already passed. I guarantee you far surpassed anything you thought was possible in No question. Right. So if you don't have a new compelling future, then you're just the good old days and you're not a good old days guy. Yeah. Right.
It's like, you know, for a fact, next year is gonna be better than this year. True.
That's so true.
Chapter 8: How to overcome setbacks and build resilience?
But not everybody has that. And it's one of the things my partner, Tony Robbins does so well. And I try to do, he does it in the personal development world. I do it in business and crafting a business and making it successful. You do it in health is it's a bigger future. So if I think about when you asked me that question, I don't think it was one moment at all.
At seven years old, I realized my dad and mom split when I was three. And I realized probably seven, eight, that my mom was working three jobs. You don't know the difference. She was cleaning houses. She was cutting hair. She was painting houses. Come home nine, 10 o'clock every night. Wow. To make nothing. I mean, Gary, we lived in the only trailer park in our town.
We lived in that until my mom couldn't afford it. We moved in with grandma. Right. So I remember, I don't know if I was seven, 10, 15. I just remember thinking I need to get insanely successful for a couple of reasons. One, money controlled my mom. She didn't control it. She wanted to be there for our baseball games and
and try to take us to school and all that but she couldn't my grandmother ended up doing all of it because my mom was working her tail off right so i realized money controlled my mom she didn't control her own life right and secondly i just wanted to retire her i mean i remember i remember being 10 years old i want to retire like i wanted my mom like i remember my uncle larry who's very college oriented asked me at like 12 years old what are you gonna do i said i'm gonna be rich and the first thing i'm gonna do is make it so my mom never has to work again and i remember him saying to me
I remember him saying to me, well, that's a great dream, but what college do you want to do? What's your profession, right? Right. And I think the why behind you want something is way more profound and important than the how.
I totally agree with you. I mean, I really, really agree with you. So if someone's listening to this right now and they just feel sort of stuck. Yeah. And maybe overwhelmed or like... they don't know how to make that switch. Like they know that they're capable of more and they know that what they're doing is not working. What's a shift that they could make?
Yeah, great question.
They could sort of change that direction.
Right, and whether this is leading into the healthiest version of you or the most wealthy version of you, right? It's all the same, right? So if you think about it, sometimes we don't realize it's the questions we ask ourselves. It's like, how come I could never get healthy, right? I've heard Tony do this so well.
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