Dr. Julie Smith on finding identify postpartum, mom guilt & social anxiety

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Who is Dr. Julie Smith and what is her professional background?

Host 2 1:00
I have something kind of embarrassing to admit. I was actually Googling yesterday what a clinical psychologist is because I didn't know the difference between a psychiatrist and a psychologist.

What are the differences between psychiatrists, psychologists, and therapists?

Dr. Julie Smith 1:11
Yeah, it's probably one of the most common questions I get, actually. Really?
Host 2 1:14
So you're not alone. Okay, okay. So can you explain it?
Host 1 1:16
Because I still am trying to... Wait, and a therapist, because I feel like they all kind of get confusing for me.
Dr. Julie Smith 1:22
Yeah, yeah. So a psychiatrist will train in medicine, and then they'll choose psychiatry as opposed to working in the ER or in general practice. They'll kind of go off into mental health that way, but their focus is generally diagnosis and medications and stuff like that. Some of them, train in kind of therapeutic um sort of talking therapies and stuff like that but mostly that in my experience of working with them they're mostly focused on medications whereas psychologists uh start with a psychology degree and then go on to do a doctorate in clinical psychology so they're always focused on that kind of formulation and talking therapies and those kind of things so it's you know the same work but from different angles coming from different trainings um
Host 2 2:10
Interesting. So the psychologist one is more of the medical side.
Dr. Julie Smith 2:13
So the psychiatrist is the medical side. Psychologist is psychology.
Host 2 2:16
See, I already screwed it up. I thought I knew the difference. Yeah, I'm tracking.
Dr. Julie Smith 2:21
You're tracking? Don't quiz me on it. But then you can always have a therapist as well that isn't necessarily a psychologist. But they've trained because there are lots of different modalities of therapy. And, you know, some people might start off as a mental health nurse and then they might train in one or two kind of therapies and they just do those ones. Whereas a psychologist has lots of different things they can take from because they have that kind of extensive training.
Host 2 2:46
So should someone's therapist be a psychologist? Like, is that recommended?
Dr. Julie Smith 2:52
Well, I'm biased because I am one. But I think they just have that breadth and depth of training. So you learn about lots of different therapies and you have the time to practice that and be assessed on doing that really well. Um, and you learn how to do kind of research and stuff like that. Um, but you know, so I guess if, if you only have one therapy as your kind of tool, then you're a bit more restricted potentially, but it depends because if, if that's the therapy you're looking for, then maybe that's all you need. But yeah. Yeah.
Host 2 3:25
What's that like for your husband being married to you? I feel like that must be intimidating.
Host 1 3:29
I honestly think of that about our therapist. We were just talking about that. Like, that dude never wins an argument.
Dr. Julie Smith 3:34
Well, you know, sometimes for my kids as well. My son the other day, he's like, Mom, don't give me the Dr. Julie bit. I was obviously starting to look a bit like, well, should we talk about this? And he was like, no, Mom.
Host 1 3:48
I am so curious what that looks like in parenting as a psychologist. Like, yeah, I think we're in the stage now where we're definitely in the emotional space for both of our boys because they're two in one. Like when they're like escalating and doing fits like that. I guess, like, from a psychologist perspective, how do you parent your kids through fits like that?

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