What's really open about open-weight AI?

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David Pearce 0:02
Hello and welcome to The Verge Cast, the flagship podcast of Kimmy K3. I'm your friend David Pearce, and today on the show, we're going to talk about AI models. We've been talking about AI models a lot on the show for the last few weeks in the wake of the open AI hack of Hugging Face and all of these new conversations about AI safety and AI deployment and open weight models and the race with China and how we think about and operate AI in general. It all feels like it's coming to a head in some way right now. So The Verge's Robert Hart is going to come on and he's going to explain to us what's actually going on here. There's a lot of new vocabulary with these bottles and a lot of new questions about how they work and how they're made.
David Pearce 0:36
He's going to make sense of all of it for us. I personally am very excited to have somebody finally make sense of all of it for me. We're going to get to that in just a second. But first, here's everything else happening on The Verge today.
Jake Kastrenakes 0:48
I'm Jake Castronakis, and this is 90 Seconds on the Verge for August 4th, 2026. Microsoft just started bringing original Xbox games to the PC the other week, and now it's planning to bring Xbox 360 games as well. My colleague Tom Warren has the scoop on a memo that Microsoft sent around to developers, asking them to opt in to the new program. Microsoft will handle all the emulation hurdles, even customer support. All developers have to do is approve their games for sale and set a price. Microsoft's argument is, why not do it? It's free cash. The rollout is supposed to begin next year. Next up, Apple abruptly pulled Telegram from the App Store last night, before restoring it less than an hour later.
Jake Kastrenakes 1:25
Apple told various news outlets that it pulled the app due to the presence of CSAM. Then it restored the app after Telegram removed the content and banned the person who posted it. The whole incident is very odd, and it's actually the second time it's happened. Apple pulled Telegram in 2018 for the same reason, and again restored it within hours. After this latest incident, Telegram seems downright mad. Telegram spokesperson Remy Vaughn told us that Apple was wrong to pull the app down. Finally, my favorite gadget of the day, my colleague Andrew Leshevsky spotted some new camera batteries from Falcam that have built-in support for Apple's Find My network to help you track down missing gear. I love this.
Jake Kastrenakes 2:01
This seems so much more convenient than attaching an AirTag to every camera you own. It's only available for Canon and Sony right now, but Nikon and Fuji are set to be in the works. They're a little pricey though, at up to $70 a piece. You can read more at theverge.com. That's 90 seconds of The Verge for August 4th, 2026.
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Jonquilyn (J.Q.) Hill 3:01
Powders, pills, plunges. Everywhere you look, there seems to be a new wellness trend. We all want to feel good. And if there's a way to feel better, I think, wouldn't you want to try it? I would. What's the cost of being well? And why are we so obsessed with it in the first place? That's this week on Explain It To Me. Find episodes every Sunday, wherever you get your podcasts.
David Pearce 3:29
All right, let's talk AI models. Joining me now, Verge reporter Robert Hart. Welcome to the show. First time on the Verge cast.
Robert Hart 3:34
Yeah, long time listener, first time joiner, so.
David Pearce 3:37
Very happy to have you here. And I've brought you here to do maybe the wonkiest thing we have done on this show in some time. We're gonna do a little bit of analysis, a little bit of explainer.

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