Chapter 1: Who is Brooke Schofield and what is her background?
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You're ready to rock and roll?
Yeah.
You nervous?
Yeah.
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Chapter 2: What led to the end of the podcast 'Cancelled'?
Cool. At least my name's in her mouth.
No, we did. We met her at.
I've never met her.
No, we have. We met her at Seth MacFarlane's party. We met her there. We were in line to get drinks and we were behind her. And I was like, we should say hi because this drama with JoJo had happened a couple months prior. And I was like, we should say hi. And we said hi.
So we met her.
She probably doesn't remember that either.
Well, I'm sure she meant well. Yeah, sure.
Well, I mean, I don't know. I don't know where you want to start this interview. I had been interested in getting both you and Tana on individually. I actually, I think, randomly was like, no, fuck it. I'm just going to like. DM Tana and asked her to come on the podcast. And like three weeks later, she was like, Ooh, this is interesting. Maybe let me, let me do research.
And then I haven't heard from her again.
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Chapter 3: How does Brooke feel about her relationship with Tana Mongeau?
But as that stands today, Tana was more or less, like, maybe... Maybe we should just end it type of thing.
Yeah, I would have loved to take a second, especially like when things were really happening for me online, like, you know, with everything that went on, especially last year. I would have loved to take like, you know, a few months off and like take a beat and have time to like process that. But we didn't have the option because we had like, you know, this really like set in stone contract.
So I think that that just, you know, snowballed into something horrible because I was like now... doing this thing that I should not have been doing in a state of mind that I should not have been in. And it just finally had to end.
From an outsider's point of view, not knowing a ton about you prior to this interview or even Tana... But just like me, you can be aware of me but not know a lot about me. And just like you two, you guys are so prevalent on the internet and have huge fan bases that it's very easy when you're that much in the public eye for people to have different perceptions of you.
But, you know, you obviously just referenced being caught up in controversy in the past. Tana has been caught up in controversy and things like that. And she's also considered a polarizing character. I'm just like, how did you guys come up with the name canceled?
Because it seems like really ironic history and the lifespan of your show being called canceled and having to pause and and end it based off of controversy. Like, is that a coincidence or how did that all come to be?
I think it's a little bit of both. Tana, at the time that she started Canceled, it was only her show. It was meant to be just Canceled with Tana Mongeau. And that, I think, was what you're saying. She kind of thought it was funny because she'd been canceled so many times. It was just ironic.
And also, she wanted to be able... If somebody were to Google Tana Mongeau Canceled, the podcast would come up and not... all her cancellations. She's smart. She's smart businesswoman. Really brilliant but then I think it ended up just accidentally manifesting some other serious major cancellations which I would have loved to do without but
When you make a mistake, you need to hold yourself accountable and learn from past mistakes. And I'm sure you've thought a lot about wanting to do things differently. But do you feel like how your show, whether it's the title or just the content you talked about, do you feel like almost it manifested how things played out in reality?
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Chapter 4: What impact did the podcast have on Brooke's mental health?
I do vaguely remember it being big news.
Sorry. It was a really dramatic reaction to something that wasn't that dramatic. And that is a common theme in my life.
you know, life is all about perspective and how you view things. And obviously you've been through some traumas lately, some of which you've acknowledged are self-induced, you know, your fault, but like there's always an opportunity to learn and move forward. And hopefully like there's an opportunity to learn from you.
Do you feel like your audience members, because a lot of them I think are young and look up to you and Tana, do you feel like people have learned from your and Tana's mistakes? you know, is there a way to entertain, but also at the same time recognize that like, yeah, it's tough.
Cause you said like, there's, you know, a lot of times when we kind of invoke our rule, it's like, but that would, that would perform, you know, that would like, you know, it's like, that's the, that's the juicy stuff that like sometimes it's, it's hard to please. And it always runs the risk of people getting hurt, so to speak. And do you feel like people or your audience have
not only looked at you guys and like, oh, we need to hold you two accountable, but like maybe learn themselves about like what to do and not to do when it comes to who they're talking about online?
Yeah, I hope so. I hope at the very least, like people have noticed like the weight of your words, like specifically even things I've said, you know, so many years ago can have so much impact, like, you know, 10, 15 years later. And there's so much of that happening right now.
People who are doing it right this second who don't understand or know that maybe down the line they won't mean that anymore or they're going to regret it and it could really hurt somebody. So I hope that people just have more of a filtration process than at least I did. I mean, I would like for people to see that you can grow. And maybe if you were once somebody who wanted to bully or make
other people feel bad or whatever it is, you can decide one day you don't want to anymore and that's fine. You can always change.
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Chapter 5: What lessons has Brooke learned from her public persona?
I was kind of like dismissive and I wanted to just feel like it didn't bother me. And I feel like you think when you grow up, it's going to get like easier. And I feel like my experience has been like the more I've grown up, the more it's like hurt me and upset me.
Was it your grandparents or was it your mom who explained kind of like your mom's disease?
I don't think it was ever really like explained to me. I just, I just had an understanding of it. You know, like she was doing meth in the house. Like I never had to be told that she was a drug addict. I definitely, I knew it wasn't normal. Like we knew it wasn't normal. We were upset by it and stuff. And like that specifically, that really wasn't the problem.
It was, you know, what comes with being a meth addict, like the violence and like. The fighting and the people in and out, like it was just like that was more traumatic to me. But it wasn't until I was like a little bit older, probably like more recently, like the last five years where I really was like, this is a disease. It's not a choice. It's not like her having abandoned me.
It's like something that she struggles with so bad. And that was helpful to not resent her so much. What is your relationship like with your mom today?
that's um I literally I just recently like a few weeks ago we went completely no contact really like I had to fully block her which was horrible if you don't mind me asking like what sparked that response um I've done it a few times I've like I've wrestled with it a lot because like Similar to Canceled, I feel like I was trying to heal from something, like a relationship that I was still in.
I really wanted to work through some of that, except I was still suffering at the hands of her, it felt like. Especially having become more successful, it became a very emotionally abusive relationship where it was like, I need money or this. And it was just really constant taking from me and with nothing in return. And I just felt really taken advantage of. And I just finally had to be like,
I bought a house, so I'm like, I can't financially support everybody anymore. I can't.
I imagine that your success in the public eye affected... your relationship with your mom or changed how she acted around you at times? How people like handle, like family can get weird when you get famous.
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Chapter 6: How does Brooke handle online criticism and hate?
And you have a lot of like privileges and blessings that like a lot of people don't have. But at the same time, you've dealt with some like really difficult things that have really hurt your mental health. I'm sure at times when you're feeling the weight of the internet coming from you, it's been incredibly scary.
And I'm sure you've had regrets or wondering, or maybe there's been a thought like, why did I even start this podcast? Was it worth it? But now that some of the dust has settled a little bit, You've moved on from cancel. How do you balance regret versus still being grateful for what you have and then just focusing on learning from mistakes?
For a long time, I really struggled with gratitude and feeling grateful for like what I do have because I have so much, you know what I mean? And I have so much privilege and things that I dream dreamt of. And I felt a lot of guilt for like feeling the way that I did when I knew I had all of this stuff.
I mean, do you have regret? Like, I mean, I guess, do you, have you ever been like, I wish I never did any of this? I'm not talking about specific things, but like, I know it's like a deeper conversation. You've referenced tweets, you know, like the tweets and stuff in the past.
Like if someone were to give you the benefit of the doubt to say, you know, maybe this was a younger person and she doesn't think or feel this way. as insensitive, as wrong as those tweets were, people did find them. And, you know, it's like, and they wouldn't have found them if you weren't in the public eye.
And I'm sure you've had that kind of emotional or mental gymnastics about like, because if you just got a job is like, I don't know, whatever.
Nothing like that would have ever happened.
And it doesn't make what you, it doesn't eliminate, but I'm assuming that you didn't think that way for a long time. And you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't regret canceled in any way. I don't regret, you know, anything about like the way that my career has panned out. Of course, maybe if I could go back, I would maybe have. I don't know if I don't know if I would have wanted to delete all of that or whatever, because it was such a huge part. I mean, it was a huge learning lesson for me. And.
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Chapter 7: What are Brooke's future plans in content creation?
I go through periods where I am so good about it and I can live outside my phone and my body and I can be present for periods of time. But then also I'll fall into it and I'll obsess over it for days and not literally look up for my phone once.
Have you gotten better at least?
Yes.
Are you still working on that?
I think I've gotten a lot better, specifically in my relationship that I'm in now. At the time that I met him, I was so consumed by that. And I was also just get like that was the midst of everything. So I was what felt like the most hated person on the Internet. And I behaved as such like I felt that way. And I feel like he really brought me back out of my body.
And I started noticing what was in front of me again. And I think that really, really helped.
You really are like the only person I feel like that can do the most normal activity. And someone somewhere will be like, oh, my God, she pushed me in the parking lot. And it's like, what the fuck? It's the craziest.
I've never seen anything like it. It's a lesson I've learned. It was one thing, and I completely understand you.
being you know getting ridiculed or like being held accountable for things that I have actually done wrong and I've done a lot of things actually wrong but it started really scaring me when I started seeing things that just got made up like never happened she cut me in line at Erewhon in Calabasas I'm like I've never even been to Calabasas
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Chapter 8: How does Brooke envision her role as a future parent?
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What is your relationship with Tana today? You mentioned that you had just spoken with her. I think there's a lot of speculation that your friendship is not as close as it used to be and that the fallout of things that you've had to go through and the ending of Canceled has played a role in that.
Yeah. So I think during canceled, like while canceled was going on, there was speculation that like, oh, my God, these girls hate each other. And like I'd say 40 to 50 percent of the time it was true. Like we did not get along. We butt heads about everything. Like it's it's really hard to have a business with your friends and like especially when you don't see eye to eye. almost ever.
But I think somewhere along the way, especially toward the end when we could see like what felt like the light at the end of the tunnel, it became more of like a us against them versus like us against each other. But I don't know. I feel like now I feel so much better about our relationship. We feel so much better about it. We're happy and we are back to being friends because we struggled.
Fans noticed that she did not go to your engagement party. Yeah. Did she tell you beforehand she wasn't going to make it? What kind of happened there?
she did tell me she was in Hawaii and her she just bought a place in Hawaii and it was like under construction and so she had to be there to oversee that and I understand like that was like yeah it was a valid it's an engagement party so it was like not the wedding yeah it's not the wedding it's not the wedding I'd be like of course I also had friends miss my wedding Yeah. It's also OK. Yeah.
And in the moment, I'm somebody who like I'm really sensitive about those things like birthdays, like anything. I really I have like trauma about feeling like people don't show up for me. So those things usually really upset me. But she was very like she really communicated and she's like she was really good about it. So didn't bother me.
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