Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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What is going on, everybody? Welcome to The Vile Files. This is the Special Forces Reunion Edition. We couldn't be more excited to be with you and our finalists. Really excited to be with you guys. We are filming here in New York. We'll hear the sounds of New York throughout this episode, probably. Congratulations to all of you guys for making the finale.
So let's just see a big round of applause right there. We have obviously a great lineup. In the back, we have Andrew East, Cody Brown up front,
Sean Johnson East. Brianna LaPaglia and Gia Giudice. What a group. Look at us, guys. What a group. Going in, I mean, like, did you ever think you would be here?
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Chapter 2: How did the finalists feel about their experience on Special Forces?
And you, I don't know, it just made you want to keep going. You didn't want to give up on yourself. It felt like if you quit, you were giving up on yourself.
Yeah.
I felt like that was very obvious, just like it shined through the screen. Yeah. We have, of course, Sean being like, Myrtle Ball, that was kind of fun. Was the bees fine? Myrtle Ball, I will say was fun. It was terrifying, but it was fun.
Okay.
Your friend died. I was definitely concussed. For me, I competed at the Olympics when I was 16, and I did all the blood, sweat, tears stuff my whole life leading up to that moment. After the Olympics, from 16 until, honestly, Special Forces, I used the Olympics as an excuse to never have to commit to anything again. It was like, well, I did it.
So I don't have to work out or finish this marathon or like whatever it was, whatever goal I had in mind. I was like, I don't really need to.
You've been to the top of the mountain.
Absolutely. And I think it kept me from committing to anything and working hard to do anything again. And so I started doubting myself over the years that I was even capable of doing that again. And now having three babies and wanting to be like an example, I wanted to prove it to myself that I could. So showed up and didn't give myself an option. I said, this is 10 days. It's not one or two.
I just said, it's 10 days and I'll see my babies in 10 days. Wow. Damn did it, Greg. Andrew. Damn did it.
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Chapter 3: What challenges did the finalists face during the competition?
It was like a three-mile run up to the wires and like a three-mile run back down. Which they did not show.
No, that's the stuff they never really show.
Me, Breeze, and Jessie, we all were like almost dying. We almost laughed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we get down. And they go, some people on this course like to be disrespectful and not respect the course and not respect the DS. And I'm standing there like. This is, yeah. Are you talking about me? Yeah, like, I'm so sorry, guys. We have our bergens on.
We start suicides up and down this mountain, up and down. 200 yards?
Yeah, it's about 100 yards one way and then the other way. And so they suicide, you know, they just keep rotating us. And then they'd say, hey, winners are rewarded. So I smoke past Randall. And Andrew. And then it's like, psych, next time. You snuck past him? It was kind of a cheap shot.
No, he snuck past everybody.
I wanted to just beat an NFLer to the end. And so I just snuck past him. And then Q goes, psych, next time. And run back up. Never try to be the winner. Because it might not pay. Yeah. It was just over and over and over.
Yeah, and then they would throw in lunges and then playing. Or bear walks or whatever. It was just anything you could think of. And like... There were multiple times where me and Brie would look at each other and just be like, are we quitting right now?
It was probably 15 laps.
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Chapter 4: How did the contestants motivate each other to keep going?
This chasm. How long was that?
Six hours. We smoked this for a half hour after you brought us back. They didn't show any of that.
It was like poisonous bronze. Oh, yeah. We could have like twisted an ankle 5,000 times on that terrain.
We could have like sprint down a canyon a few miles.
We're not hooked up to anything on the side of a cliff. Like if someone in the back were to fall.
It's actually really sketchy.
We would have died. Really sketchy. Yeah, it was crazy. I remember I fell. I wanted like a blooper reel of me because I was in the front for that because like I was like, all right, let me go in the front for this, guys. I can't keep up. And I tripped over something. My Bergen fell over my head, face on the ground. And I start laughing and Q was like, this isn't funny, Brianna. Get up now.
Oh, so bad. But they didn't show any of that.
That was the only time where I feel like production crossed a line because the safety guy, every time we were going over a cliff, he would just grab me and put me down because it was it was probably like a 12 foot drop. Yeah. And these guys are like climbing down it. And I was like, I don't know how to get down. He just grabbed me. You know, yeah.
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Chapter 5: What were the most memorable moments from the reunion?
I ended up telling him at the end. I was like, you scared me the most. And he was like, me? I was like, yeah, you're intense. Drew?
I think Foxy, I wanted his approval most just because I feel like he's a guy I want to hang out with. So I was like, I just want to be good enough to be in your circle. But him and Billy, I think they would make cheeky comments out on the course. And I feel like, I don't know. Yeah, I would want to spend more time with him. It's been fun to like message him after still.
And it's like, they're all like so well accomplished. You dig into their backstory and you're like, oh my gosh, these are the real deal dudes. Yeah. Yeah, it's been fun getting to know them after the course and the human side of who they are and their stories.
He came to our wedding and he was like the most loved person there.
What's your wedding?
This is amazing. Yeah, it's like dancing with everybody on the dance floor. It's like, who is this guy? Completely different. Gave a little speech.
You gave a speech?
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, we had like a welcome party and then there was like an open mic where like people could come and like say nice things and you came up.
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Chapter 6: How did the finalists prepare for the Special Forces challenges?
And how did you interpret that feedback? I feel like it's easy when you get feedback to think, oh, that's not true. And, and, and then the more I've thought about, I'm like, oh, that's, that's fascinating. But in some ways I feel like I've embraced it where it's like, I would, that's what I want. I want to have a teammate, you know, what's the saying? If you want to go fast, go alone.
If you want to go far, go together. It's like, Yeah, I'll like slow myself down gladly. If the team wins, then I win. And that's that's how I feel. So I yeah, I I've thought about it often, not just what was said in that mirror room, but also just like the off camera conversations. They do have some really fascinating insight.
Brianna, when you told me you were going on, when you sent me a message and asked me what I thought about it. I thought you're going to go very far. I mean, obviously, you're famously known for turning down a large sum of money from an ex-boyfriend. And for reasons like you didn't want to just, you know, have him control you, essentially.
I just don't feel like people appreciate the level of resiliency or just like... There's a determination and a belief in yourself to be able to turn down that type of money. You're obviously independently successful, but every one of you have to bet on yourself, right? Like to be in this position to survive this course, you really have to have this sheer belief in yourself. And do you see that?
And do you see what I see in you? And like, where do you think that comes from?
Yeah, I don't know. I think these people sitting here have helped me see that about myself for sure. I self-doubt myself a lot, but I also know like my worth and I come from an amazing family and I don't come from much. So I've always bet on myself and I have created such an amazing life for myself all on my own.
So, I mean, with turning that money down, that was like that was just never a question. Like it's always just I've got myself. That's all I need. And the show, I think, really just like exaggerated that for me and showed me, damn, OK, girl, you really can do all you can do everything and you can.
You know, do it like you can be a badass, but also be vulnerable and like cry a lot on the show and be honest and not try to like fake this tough persona. Like, yeah, this show really taught me a lot about myself and also all of them, like with the positive affirmations that they give me. Because I do...
When we talk about the show together, even when we're at dinner, I'm like, I can't even watch it. I feel like I did so bad. And they just remind me that I didn't. So they helped me a lot to realize that, yeah, I did well.
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Chapter 7: What insights did the contestants gain about themselves?
They've been wrapped up in controversy, all while people love you. Yes. But I also just, it was just really cool to see, you know, I think your mom should be really proud, obviously, of what you accomplished. And I think she gets a lot of, I think she should get a lot of credit because, you know, for whatever people may or may not think about your family.
Again, like, I just don't, I don't think people appreciate just how difficult this whole course is and the level of character it requires to want to challenge yourself and push yourself through that.
I think it is.
So this is very cool to see, you know, you represent your family the way you did.
no thank you and I also think selfishly though too I was like proud to finish it for myself like to do it alone and not not and I said this even in one of my interviews on special forces not that I wouldn't have loved to finish this of course with my mother as well because that would have been iconic but I was happy to just like do that you felt so proud after you yeah wonder what that's like
I just have a follow-up question to that. Do you think you have some street cred with your cast on Next Gen? And who, if anyone in your cast, do you think would have a chance at completing this course?
I think Ariana. Ariana Bierman. I think she's got like the mental strength and physical. She works out a lot to do it. She's been through a lot too, kind of like me growing up on reality TV and just family stuff.
Well, coincidentally enough, we had your mom on, what was it, after episode one aired, I think?
Yeah, right, yeah.
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Chapter 8: What future projects do the finalists have after the show?
Could you, and I know it's nuanced and I want to respect obviously your privacy, but also just like reality TV is famously challenging for relationships. There's a lot of relationships. I'm sure Gia has had a front row seat with just friends and colleagues and just like that universe is drama, right?
You're getting people to open up and most people in relationships, you want to like, Natalie and I, We're in public figures, but we talk a lot about protecting each other, protecting our relationship, and that matters most. It's very difficult for people who are on TV where the job is to be open.
Do you think the lifestyle or you being on a TV show impacted the marriages that didn't work out the most?
Easily would be both.
Okay. Yeah.
I mean, we were a family that was working hard to be together. Then certain things happen. People change. Your bodies change. Your thought processes change. Your children grow up and they leave the house. And that leaves you in a state of wondering what is going on. What is the relationship that you have with your spouse after your children have left the home?
These are all things that are very nuanced. But the thing about reality TV that is so dangerous... for loving families is they're looking for the rub, the grind, the tension. They're looking for that. And if you play into that, you can be with your best friend and start looking critical. You can be with your wife and look critical or be criticized. And so you have to be really well-grounded.
And 16 years into it, I'm just trying to still find my way in this world because it's definitely a world of he said, she said. And it's hard to feel accountable. I can look at my hands and go, okay, here are the 10 things I'm accountable for. But that one you're trying to put on me isn't mine to own. And you kind of get in this place where you have to be super grounded, and I'm not.
Cause you guys all saw me lose my head flapping like a chicken. So it's, it's a challenge to be in reality TV. I like to retire my wife, Robin from television. So they can't pit us against each other. Now.
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