The Viall Files
E1039 - Leanne Morgan, Southern Charm Premiere w Charley Manley, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives & RHOC Reunion
25 Nov 2025
Chapter 1: What festive traditions are shared at the beginning?
It's that time of year from family gatherings around a warm fireplace to catching up over your favorite peppermint mocha. Together is the best place to be. This episode is sponsored by Starbucks.
I have to say, every time I drink a peppermint mocha around the holidays, it always reminds me of when my family, after Thanksgiving, the Friday after Thanksgiving, we always go downtown Savannah. We walk the little Riverside Market. There's always a Starbucks there. Grab our drinks. Yeah, you get your hot peppermint mocha. It's cold. You're cozy. You're with family. It's fun.
It's one of my favorite traditions.
Delicioso. It tastes like Christmas.
It does. It's the most nostalgic feeling ever to like be chilly outside. You have a hot Starbucks holiday drink and you're like with your family. There's nothing better.
Well, we love family time with a warm drink in our hands.
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Chapter 2: How does the discussion shift to Thanksgiving plans?
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What's going on, everybody? Welcome back to another jam-packed episode of the Vile Files Reality Recap Edition.
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Chapter 3: What insights are shared about the Southern Charm premiere?
I am your host, Nick, joined by my patriotic... What the fuck?
What the fuck? God bless America.
Happy Thanksgiving.
My grateful wife. My grateful, supportive, compelling... Patriotic.
She is... She is grateful or you are grateful for her. No, I'm just... I'm grateful, I guess. You're just grateful.
I don't know why patriotic came to mind, but... America. Anyways, we have a deliciously jam-packed episode for you lined up today. Thanksgiving is upon us. It is Thanksgiving week. I hope everyone is joyful and with the people they want to be with, whoever those people are. And I hope that your week is about to get comfortable, relaxing. And if you want to be alone, this Thanksgiving.
I hope it's everything you hoped it would be. Well, we have a great episode lined up for you. The week's already getting started. As you guys know, it's a different week. So we had our Ask Nick episode yesterday. We have our great reality recap episode with some amazing guests. We have Leanne Morgan with us today.
Oh my gosh. And she is so funny. I've been begging to have her on for years, it feels like. And we finally got her and she's everything I ever dreamed of.
It's a really fun interview. You're absolutely going to love it. We also have Charlie Manley.
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Chapter 4: What can we expect from the new cast member Charlie Manley?
Yeah.
But then like stages it with her husband because of course.
We go into a Starbucks every holiday season and role play. We do. Oh my God. We're like, excuse me. Oh my God. Are you going to get that mug? Did you also get a peppermint mocha? Yes. Is this love at first sight?
Oh my God. They're like, for NJV. And we both go.
Those are my initials.
Those are my initials. You know, speaking of meet cutes at Starbucks, it's funny because it's not like, to me it's a holiday movie, but the movie Best in Show, I watch every Thanksgiving. And two of the characters in Best in Show, they're a married couple and they met at Starbucks. Anyway, Parker Posey, classic, love it.
Great, great movie. Which is a better Christmas movie, Santa Claus 1 or 2? Ooh.
Two. Unpopular opinion, two. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I'm going to go with one. I had a crush on the Mrs. Claus. There you go. We need to figure out what movies we're going to show River this year. What Christmas movies? Because I haven't seen any Christmas movies.
Oh, the classics. Rudolph, Red-Nosed Reindeer. The Claymation ones.
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Chapter 5: What does Heather's monologue reveal about the current dynamics?
Heather then went on a gorgeous monologue to say, stop playing Survivor. This is Housewives. It's too meta. Everyone stop. Oh, also to close the Heather improv saga, Gina admitted she finds Heather funny. Love wins.
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Offer only valid with new Factor customers with code and qualifying auto-renewance subscription purchase. Yeah, Heather was fantastic in this episode. I mean, she really said all the right things, which is like, it's gotten weird. Like, why has it gotten so dark? Why isn't it just like us bickering about our lives?
The fact that Tamara couldn't understand where Emily was coming from was like, you put Gina in a bad position. As Heather literally says, you sent me that information and I texted you back saying, I want zero part in this. So why did you go to somebody else instead of you yourself going to Gretchen being like, this is what's going on.
Chapter 6: How does the discussion shift to the RHOC Reunion's impact?
And then seeing the unreleased footage at the cake baking night at Tamara's house where Tamara tries to bring it up again. And Heather, like, realizes what she's doing. And she's like, nope, I told you I'm not doing this. And she gets up and walks away. It's, like, so wild to see that these women know, like, her plan. What Tamara's doing.
That, like, she's about to drop something off so that one of them will get super mad about it and bring it up the next time they see her. And Tamara doesn't have to do all the work. Mm hmm. Well, yeah. And it's just like icky because the accusations that Tamara is making about Gretchen are like super serious. Like this is like fucked up shit that Gretchen is allegedly liking and saying.
And like but the problem is it's like whether or not that's true, like it doesn't matter because that's not what like you're not bringing this up because you care. You're bringing this up because you want to go tit for tat. And that's what Heather is saying.
And Heather's like, listen, I am like the one that is like actively... Like me and my family are like the people that are actively affected by these things. And I don't want to talk about this because I know what you're doing. So it's just like...
why and again like in a question i would love to ask tamra is that the timing of of why like the beginning of this season was getting everybody against katie for being a liar and saying all these things but i'm like if you've been sitting on having gretchen's post for two years why why did we wait until the very end to bring this up versus like that should have been something a brought to heather and if heather says she doesn't want to talk about it then squash don't talk about it discussed off camera yeah but it's like it was a weird it's a really personal thing
Also, Tamara being like, I didn't I forgot all about it until I saw Gretchen and she like joined our group and it all just felt like very performative. I don't know.
And that's what's so weird is because Tamra's also the one that brought up the naked wasted rumors and everything going on and the Kiki Monique of it also. It's just kind of like you put yourself in this position because she said during this reunion when they were like, it's a bad look what you're doing to Gretchen. And she's like, yeah, it's a bad look to be accused of being drunk.
I'm like, you're the one that brought this to the forefront. Right.
Right.
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Chapter 7: What insights does Leanne Morgan share about family and comedy?
Again, but they wouldn't have known anything that happened unless someone from the inside told them and no one else from that group, no Gretchen, no Gina, no Katie would have framed that sentence. Yeah. In that way.
Justin, do you think a blogger would be savvy enough to get some tea and then reframe the tea so that it looked like it potentially came from a housewife? 100%.
If that gives them a potential Kiki Monique moment, 100%. Like I think we've had bloggers on these shows before like say things in a way to like make it a storyline so that then now look at it. They've been in two minutes of OC and a finale and now they're talked about on the reunion. But this person isn't even mentioned by name. No, they're not.
But people want their two seconds of like exposure with the shows they love. So like I think they like the two percent of me is like there is a world where I mean we know half the storylines by the time the show or years.
I think what's really what really stands out to me is the whole like Shannon being upset about upfronts because like that wasn't something like that's it wasn't even on the season that wasn't on the season that wasn't even something that would have been a storyline between them that happened they just happened to have cameras rolling So do you think it's like someone in crew?
But that's the other thing, too. I was like, the call is absolutely coming from inside the house. But I'm like, why are we acting like that? There's not an entire group of people that are not on camera that could also be having these conversations that do know everything.
I'm not saying like I don't want to like blame production, but I'm just saying that I'm like, I do feel bad for Tamara in a way that I'm just like for her professional career. This is what she does.
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Chapter 8: What Thanksgiving traditions does Leanne Morgan describe?
And the thing is, Outer Course is a professional. These shows have hundreds of people who work on them. Back in Bachelor franchise, there's always been spoilers and things like that. And spoilers were always kind of a bigger deal then because it was like, are they engaged? Who's dating? Things like that's a little different than, say, Housewives storylines.
Right.
And it would never come from cast. You know, like a lot of people, like you have an art department, you have sound. There's like hundreds of people that kind of like work in the shadows. They're behind the scenes. They're like, you don't really notice that they're even there. And some of them are big fucking fans.
Like, I mean, Nellie and I have worked on shows where you find out that someone like infiltrates and you realize that they're just a diehard fan. It's like that stuff happens.
um and those those because those are often the leaks i was gonna say even even temporary um people that are just like working on this season but maybe just work through the network but not actually like dedicated to a show hair and makeup loves to gossip i'm just like there's so many people that are also closely knit to these people that could very well have been there yeah i just i just i just think back to how like i knew lindsey hubbard was pregnant like
way before it was even like in the blogs we thought you were crazy for that when you said it originally people notice things and you see things online and it's like even fans that are at these events like that didn't sign releases like they're like in the background saying who knows what to who overhearing things even as the video of Shep freaking out in the lobby of a hotel where it's like he doesn't know he's being recorded and someone's recording him saying that Paige and Craig's relationship was a sham and like they didn't sign a release to not like release that or talk about it exactly so I'm like I think when people
I mean, it definitely could be production or, you know, someone setting up Tamara.
Someone who worked on the show that's a fan of the show and was like, oh my God, let me tell you everything that I heard.
I think both could be a little true. I think Tamara could be behind some of the Gretchen accusations in a way that's like a little messy and a little dirty and wrong. Like the screenshot stuff. It's like, oh, all you can find is a screenshot. I could see a world and this is total speculation. This is me just like fan theory. But yeah, I could see production being like, that's kind of fucked.
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