‘Star Wars’ Announces Another Chapter of the Skywalker Saga. Plus, ‘Lioness’ Season 3 Finale With Van Lathan.

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Bruno Satin 0:05
I need support staff to clear
Andy Greenwald 0:07
the room. Stand up and walk now.
Chris Ryan 0:11
Hello and welcome to The Watch. My name is Chris Ryan. I am an editor at theRinger.com, and joining me on the other line, he will conclude his hat ceremony at the end of this podcast. It's Andy Greenwald!
Andy Greenwald 0:27
Dude, I'm having flashbacks. This is how we started the pod. I know. Coast to coast. One guy
Chris Ryan 0:31
in New York City, another guy in Los Angeles talking about TV and pop culture. And uh, you know, it's it's another year. It's we we each got some different mayors, but it's okay.
Andy Greenwald 0:46
I'm I'm happy where I am for that. Have you taken any free
Chris Ryan 0:49
buses in New York City yet?
Andy Greenwald 0:52
I haven't, but I did consider buying a iHeartNY t shirt for my daughter, but the heart is Zoran's face. And when I say for my daughter, I mean for myself. So it it's it's in play. It's in play. But no, it's been it's been quite a um what's the opposite of pleasant, uh rough landing? Yeah. Because I moved uh out of the city ten years ago and then and then I came just in time to get like a sick ass cold. and I have a sick ass nor'easter and I'm back, baby. I'm all I'm all grim and grumpy.
Chris Ryan 1:21
Yeah, and he's doing a little bit of work in New York City, but that doesn't mean that the watch misses a beat, right? Uh his dedication to this podcast and really his dedication to the larger project of television as a lens through which we view modern life. It's like it's like Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail, man. You just gotta keep keep walking the invisible bridge.
Andy Greenwald 1:42
Wow. Yeah, that's how I felt this weekend when I was looking for a way to cross Flatbush without drenching myself. Yeah.
Chris Ryan 1:49
Uh I'm gonna be joined by Van Lathan later where we talk uh extensively about the third season of Lions, including the last two episodes, which we hadn't gotten a chance to catch up on. Uh have you finished your your Lions rewatch?
Andy Greenwald 2:02
Try not to look too excited about that segment.
Chris Ryan 2:05
We did talk about um a lot of stuff, a lot of topics. Um but I'm I'm more excited than ever to talk to you because we have Star Wars news and we have an episode of Lanterns that I will really want to break down. The first thing I wanted to mention with this Star Wars stuff, Andy, is over the weekend it broke that John Watts has signed on to direct the first film in what is rumored to be the next trilogy in the sky. Skywalker saga. So Star Wars is just they just can't quit those crazy Skywalkers. Oh great. And Simon Kinberg has been working on this project since I think 2018.

Why is Jon Watts directing a new Star Wars Skywalker Saga trilogy?

Chris Ryan 2:39
It is being reported that Daisy Ridley will return to play Ray. Um, so obviously John Watts has done work with uh the larger Disney corporation before in his, you know, Spider-Man efforts and uh Simon Kinberg has fingerprints on multiple superhero properties. Um this is interesting to me, but uh I was curious whether or not it was surprising to you. I mean, I think I think for me like It's always fascinating to see like companies sort of decide we're not interested in bringing in Denny Villeneuve to do this. We are not interested in having Jeremy Sonnier or Zach Kregger or Claude Zhao or whoever. Like it is becoming more of a studio system if more now than ever, even before. What's your reaction to this news?
Andy Greenwald 3:33
For a business side of it, you know, there aren't that many safe hands in which to entrust something that is, let's be frank, quite compromised goods at this point. The larger Star Wars franchise has fallen into such disrepair that we have basically already agreed to memory hole Mandalorian and Grogu that that was the first Star Wars movie in theaters in six years, seven years. Yes. So The the absolute retrenchment to not only a place of um We are just gonna go back to making trilogies. We are back in the Skywalker business, which I can say as someone who worked on what may have been the next movie at one point, with with lanterns writers, producers, Damon, Lindelof, and Justin Britt Gibson. That was not meant to be
Andy Greenwald 4:23
Episode 10. That was one of the mandates. That was not what was going to be the next thing. So to have gone so far back to just like Skywalker slop, but also the fact that like they are so worried and so it is such an existential decision about will we ever get to do this again if we get this wrong.

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