Mike sits down with adventurer, endurance athlete, and motivational speaker Cyril Derreumaux, a man who has spent an unusual amount of time alone with his thoughts—and the open ocean. Cyril talks Mike through his two 70-plus-day solo treks across both the Atlantic and the Pacific in a kayak. Mike and Cyril explore risk, resilience, and the fine line between careful preparation and total uncertainty. It's a conversation about discipline, humility, and why sometimes the hardest part of moving forward is learning when not to fight the current. Big thanks to our awesome sponsors AuraFrames.com/Mike Use code MIKE to get $55 off their limited-edition Stone Collection frame. American-Giant.com/MIKE Use code MIKE to get 20% off your order. ZipRecruiter.com/Rowe to try ZipIntro for FREE. PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month!

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