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476: Michael Cadenazzi—The Department of War is Hiring

24 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

What does it take to rebuild America's industrial backbone—and who's actually going to do the work? Mike sits down with Michael Cadenazzi, Assistant...

475: Jan Jekielek—Killed to Order

17 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike talks with Jan Jekielek, senior editor at The Epoch Times and host of American Thought Leaders, to discuss his new book, Killed to Order: China'...

474: Jeff Childers—Coffee & Covid

10 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike chats with Jeff Childers—the attorney-turned-writer behind the wildly popular Coffee & Covid Substack—for a wide-ranging conversation about m...

473: Will Swaim—Don't Follow California

03 Mar 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike talks with Will Swaim, CEO of the California Policy Center. California has long marketed itself as the future—a place where trends are born and...

472: Anna Vocino—Eat Happy

24 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with comedian, voiceover pro, cookbook author, and culinary entrepreneur, Anna Vocino. Anna shares how her Eat Happy journey—from her...

471: David Zucker—Thanks for the Parking Spot

17 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike talks with comedy legend David Zucker, the creative force behind the movie Airplane! Zucker shares what it took to make Airplane!—pitching a sp...

470: Mark Malkoff—Love Johnny Carson

10 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Johnny Carson didn't just host The Tonight Show—he defined late-night television. In this episode, Mike talks with comedian and pop-culture historia...

469: Rep. Riley Moore—I'm Just a Bill

06 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with West Virginia Congressman Riley Moore, whose path to Capitol Hill began with a welding torch. Moore shares why he chose the skille...

468: Thomas Tull—Adjacent to Greatness

03 Feb 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike chats with billionaire entrepreneur and producer Thomas Tull, a man whose career has repeatedly put him just one degree away from greatness. Tull...

467: BONUS Coffee with Mom—They Couldn't Get Enough of My Groin

28 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

After a six-month hiatus from TWIHI and on the occasion of her 88th birthday, multiple New York Times bestselling author Peggy Rowe (a.k.a. Mike's mom...

466: Winn Claybaugh—Hairdressers Rule the World

27 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with the dean and co-founder of Paul Mitchell Schools to talk about how an industry built on scissors, sinks, and human connection quie...

465: James Woods—Act Two

20 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Acclaimed actor James Woods joins TWIHI for a candid conversation that goes far beyond his iconic film roles. Woods addresses his cancellation from Ho...

464: Palmer Luckey—The Department of War Has a Mullet

13 Jan 2026

Contributed by Lukas

Tech founder, defense disruptor, and founder of Anduril Industries Palmer Luckey chats with Mike about the strange haircut on America's military burea...

463: Cyril Derreumaux—In the Flow

16 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with adventurer, endurance athlete, and motivational speaker Cyril Derreumaux, a man who has spent an unusual amount of time alone with...

462: Del Bigtree—An Inconvenient Study

09 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

On this eye-opening episode, Mike welcomes filmmaker and television veteran Del Bigtree of The HighWire to discuss his newest documentary, An Inconven...

461: Danny Combs—TACT, The Future of Workforce

02 Dec 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with Danny Combs, founder of TACT (Teaching the Autism Community Trades), a program that teaches people with autism skilled trades rang...

460: Ryan Fink and Ty Frackiewicz—Can AI Build My House?

25 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with the two innovative minds behind Digs — an app that's helping to streamline the home-building process. It's a candid look at what...

459: Steven Grayhm—Sheepdog

18 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike meets actor, writer, and director Steven Grayhm, whose award-winning film Sheepdog is about to hit theaters. Steven breaks down how a three-hour ...

458: Johnny Joey Jones—Mind Your Wake

11 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

In honor of Veterans Day, Mike speaks with co-host of The Big Weekend Show Marine Staff Sergeant (Ret.) Johnny Joey Jones, who served eight years as a...

457: Alex Epstein—Did Bill Gates Change His Mind

04 Nov 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike joins author and energy expert Alex Epstein to discuss Bill Gates' surprising new stance on climate change, the growing clash between "human-cent...

456: Gavin de Becker—Forbidden Facts

28 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Security expert, author, and entrepreneur Gavin de Becker joins us to discuss his newest book, Forbidden Facts: Government Deceit & Suppression About...

455: Philip Diehl—Flying Over the Hump

21 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike chats with Philip Diehl, the 35th Director of the U.S. Mint and the man behind the most successful coin program in American history—the 50 Stat...

454: Amie Ichikawa—You Can't Bring a Vagina to a Penis Fight

14 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with Amie Ichikawa—former inmate, prison reform advocate, and founder of Woman II Woman, an organization dedicated to protecting the ...

453: Enes Kanter Freedom—In the Name of Freedom

07 Oct 2025

Contributed by Lukas

NBA player turned human rights activist Enes Kanter Freedom shares his remarkable journey growing up in Turkey under an oppressive regime, his rise to...

452: Payton McNabb—Enough of This Crap!

30 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike sits down with former high school volleyballer Payton McNabb, who was knocked unconscious by a spike to the face, delivered by a male competing o...

451: Meredith Olson—Better Education Now

23 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Meredith Olson is president of Vela, a nonprofit that funds everyday entrepreneurs who are ditching the traditional school model in favor of something...

450: Elaine Culotti—California is in Real Trouble

16 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Serial entrepreneur, lipstick farmer, and season 2 undercover billionaire Elaine Culotti unleashes a no-holds-barred critique of California's downward...

449: Theo Von—A Troubled White

09 Sep 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Comedian, podcaster, and self-described "troubled white" Theo Von joins the party for a candid discussion about the bone he found on his way to the st...

448: Sheree Utash—It's Only the Best School in America

26 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Mike chats with Dr. Sheree Utash, Ed.D., president of WSU Tech and a national leader in workforce education. They talk about how she reinvented a comm...

447: Tommy Mello—The Secret Sauce is the Grind

19 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Tommy Mello founded A1 Garage Door Service—a 100 million-plus-dollar business. Tommy shares how he went from reselling Bowflex, cleaning pools, and ...

446: Nick Searcy—Justify This

12 Aug 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Actor, director, and pseudo-troublemaker Nick Searcy is back! Nick recounts what he saw at the Capitol on January 6 and why he made Capital Punishmen...

445: Coffee with Mom—They Had Their Way with My Right Hip

29 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

America's Grandmother stops by to discuss the haunting melody of Adagio for Strings, dropping one's phone in the toilet, and Peggy's handsy masseuse.

444: Jack Teetor—Blind Faith to Blind Logic

22 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Filmmaker Jack Teetor joins to discuss his new documentary, Blind Logic, about his granduncle, Ralph Teetor, who revolutionized the automotive indust...

443: Rick Perry—The Fight of a Lifetime

15 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Former Texas Governor and U.S. Energy Secretary Rick Perry stops by to talk about two things most folks wouldn't expect in the same sentence—AI data...

442: Salena Zito—America's Journalist

08 Jul 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Salena Zito is a prolific author, award-winning reporter, and our great friend. No one knows the heartland like Salena, and she's here to discuss the ...

441: Jillian Michaels—Keeping It (Very) Real

24 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jillian Michaels is a renowned fitness expert, television personality, podcaster, and bestselling author known most for her role on The Biggest Loser...

440: David Mamet—Whore That I Am

17 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Arguably America's greatest living playwright, David Mamet, drops by to discuss movies, theater, philosophy, and his new book, The Disenlightenment: P...

439: Codie Sanchez Wants to Make You Financially Free

10 Jun 2025

Contributed by Lukas

New York Times bestselling author Codie Sanchez has a background working in finance but gave up Wall Street for Main Street. She is a blue-collar entr...

438: Jan Jekielek—The Terrible Truth About China

27 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Jan Jekielek is a senior editor with The Epoch Times and host of "American Thought Leaders." He has extensively covered the issue of forced organ harv...

437: Neal McDonough—Clear the Mechanism

20 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

437: Neal McDonough—Clear the Mechanism The perennial character actor villain turned leading man drops by to talk about the first film where he fina...

436: Garry Ridge—Any Dumbass Can Do It

13 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Once named one of Inc. magazine's 10 most admired CEOs, Garry led WD-40 for 25 years. At that time, his leadership and positive corporate culture grew...

435: Josh Smith & Bayard Winthrop—Shut Up and Make It!

06 May 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Amid the tariff wars, Mike sits down with two men whose businesses are NOT affected by foreign supply chains. Josh is a master bladesmith and founder ...

434: Sarah Yourgrau—People You Should Know

29 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

You may know Sarah as the on-camera producer from Facebook's Returning the Favor with Mike Rowe. She is also a two-time Emmy-winning storyteller, soci...

433: Coffee with Mom—That Toy Really Sucks

22 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Peggy Rowe, a.k.a. Mike's three-time NYT bestselling mom, is back for a check-in. In this episode you'll hear about the horrors of hoarding, books you...

432: Gene Simmons—The Sun Never Sets on Planet Cool

17 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The multilingual, bass-thumping, capitalist dives into what made him fall in love with America, his unforgettable first job involving prosthetic teste...

431: David Bahnsen—Poor Smart and Desperate

08 Apr 2025

Contributed by Lukas

David Bahnsen is the founder, managing partner, and chief investment officer of The Bahnsen Group, which manages over seven billion dollars in assets....

430: Enrico Colantoni—The Balls on this Guy!

25 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Award-winning actor and old friend Rico drops by for a hysterical, if not irreverent, hang with Mike and Chuck, friends he's had for 40+ years. There ...

429: Gary Sinise—The Importance of Showing Up

18 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

The multi-award-winning actor, chronic philanthropist, and all-around outstanding human drops by to talk about his son, Mac Sinise, who sadly passed a...

428: Mike Albrecht—Got Wood?

11 Mar 2025

Contributed by Lukas

As a logger and forester, Mike Albrecht knows a lot about wood. He is the two-time president of the American Loggers Council, and he's on a mission to...

427: Carlos Whittaker—How Fast is Godspeed?

25 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Carlos spent seven weeks without any screens—no phone, no computer, no TV. His newest book, Reconnected, documents that journey filled with monks, ...

426: Tim Allen Loves the Ballet

18 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

It's a compelling hang with the iconic comedian, actor, and renaissance man who takes a deep dive on a myriad of topics, including philosophy, physics...

425: Darrell Lester—The Eight Letter F Word

11 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Former vice president of marketing at Publishers Clearing House, Darrell Lester, tells the inside story of how PCH started as a mom & pop shop, meteor...

424: Anson Frericks—Last Call for Bud Light

04 Feb 2025

Contributed by Lukas

As President of Anheuser-Busch Sales and Distribution, Anson had a front-row seat to witness how and why Bud Light lost its position as the most popul...

423: Alex Epstein—On Littering and Underpants

28 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Alex Epstein is back! He's a philosopher and energy expert who argues that "human flourishing" should be the guiding principle of energy and environme...

422: Darnell Epps—Where There's a Pulse There's a Purpose

21 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Darnell is the founder and CEO of Thurgood Industries, a career-building platform for skilled workers. He shares his amazing story of how he grew up i...

421: Edward Ring—What to do About Bass

14 Jan 2025

Contributed by Lukas

Edward is the co-founder and director of water and energy policy for the California Policy Center. He's written voluminously on how to fix California'...

420: Coffee with Mom—Merry Freakin' Christmas!

20 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Peggy Rowe, a.k.a. Mike's mom, a.k.a. America's grandmother is not one for excessive cursing… usually. In this episode, however, she makes an except...

419: Quentin Schultze & NEW STORY—The Story of His Life

17 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

We begin with a mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span and we conclude with the story of Christmas, the way I heard it. The guest is...

418: David Alan Arnold—Dead Man's Curve

10 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Multiple Emmy-winning aerial photographer David Alan Arnold has shot World Series, Super Bowls, X-Games, commercials, and movies. But he truly earns h...

417: Nikki Stratton—All the Gallant Men

03 Dec 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Nikki Stratton is the granddaughter of Pearl Harbor survivor Donald Stratton. Donald was a sailor aboard the ill-fated USS Arizona on December 7, 1941...

416: Nathan Walters—So You Want to be a Builder

29 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Oklahoma builder Nathan Walters discusses his unlikely journey to owning his own building business, the virtues and pitfalls of college vs. on-the-job...

415: Ronda Paulson—Drinking from a Firehose

19 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Ronda and her husband Corey founded Isaiah 117 House to provide a safe and loving home for children awaiting placement in the foster care system. Isai...

414: Rob Lowe was Here… Literally!

12 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The '80s brat-pack teen idol drops by to share tales from his amazing life in film and TV and explain why he loves doing his gameshow The Floor and hi...

413: Clinton Romesha—It Doesn't Get Better

05 Nov 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In 2009, Clint was awarded the Medal of Honor for his actions during the battle of Kamdesh during the Afghan War, which he recalls in his book, Red P...

412: Coffee with Mom—Pimping Out Your Brothers for Halloween with Peggy Rowe

31 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Three-time NYT Bestselling author a.k.a. Mike's mom checks in to share tales from Rowe Halloween's gone by.

411: Tim Pearce—Accuracy Under Fire

29 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

LAPD and CRASH Unit veteran Tim Pearce shares stories of fighting gangs in South Central in a post-Rodney King world, including the tragic tale of his...

410: Nathan Fillion—Kind of a Big Deal

22 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Star of TV shows The Rookie, Castle, and Firefly Nathan Fillion drops by to catch up with his old friend and '90s neighbor Mike Rowe. Nathan and Mike ...

409: Dan Carlin & NEW STORY—A Perfect Hostage

15 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

After Mike recites a brand-new mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span, OG Podcaster and Hardcore History host Dan Carlin drops by to...

408: Matt Malone—From the Ground Up

08 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Matt Malone is the CEO of Groundworks, one of the largest foundation repair and waterproofing companies in the United States. He's also a self-describ...

407: Kat Timpf—Hot Soup Goes In Hot Takes Come Out

01 Oct 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Co-host of the late-night hit GUTFELD! and New York Times bestselling author Kat Timpf has the distinction of being the most pregnant person ever to a...

406: Justin Folk—Am I Racist?

24 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Director/Producer Justin Folk is best known for helming the 2022 hit documentary What is a Woman, starring Matt Walsh. Justin and Matt teamed up again...

405: Ken Coleman—Meet the Stoics

17 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

New York Times Bestselling author and broadcaster Ken Coleman is in the personal growth business. His books and show are designed to help people ident...

404: Vinnie Tortorich—Talking Points and Scotch

10 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The celebrity fitness trainer, author, and filmmaker drops by to put Mike and Chuck on his trademarked no sugar, no grains lifestyle. Along the way, h...

403: Josh Smith—From First Blood to Last Bite

03 Sep 2024

Contributed by Lukas

When it comes to work ethic, Master Bladesmith Josh Smith self-identifies as "the guy Mike is always talking about." At age 11, Josh was taught how to...

402: Coffee with Mom—The Bad Grammar Scammer with Peggy Rowe

29 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Three-time NY Times bestselling author Peggy Rowe describes her recent encounters with a scammer and blackmailer as Mike and Chuck debate the proper p...

401: Brent Haken—A Farmer is Fixing it

27 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The former farmer and lifelong educator works as director of the Oklahoma Department of Career and Technology Education (CTE) where he brings his get-...

400:Sabin Howard—Born Cancelled

20 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Master Sculptor Sabin Howard is known as America's Michelangelo for his work in, and deep knowledge of, Modern Classicism. On September 13, 2024, he w...

399: Jason Alexander—I Thought There'd be More Plumes

13 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The Tony Award-winning actor, director, and podcaster goes deep with TWIHI about everything from his traumatic childhood and dashed dreams of becoming...

398: Victor Davis Hanson—So Goes Glory

06 Aug 2024

Contributed by Lukas

VDH is a Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, a Distinguished Fellow at Hillsdale College, a professor of public policy at ...

397: Bishop W.C. Martin—Hope in Possum Trot

30 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Bishop Martin and his wife Donna were the inspiration for the film Sound of Hope: The Story of Possum Trot, which details their miraculous journey na...

396: Frank H. McCourt, Jr,—Selected Garbage from Families of Distinction

23 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The American businessman and philanthropist talks about growing up in Boston as a fifth-generation builder, starting his first business collecting gar...

395: Dennis Quaid—Getting All the Stuff Right

16 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The veteran actor and gospel singer recounts his early career, what made him give up his dream of becoming a veterinarian, how he realized he had a pr...

394: Kris Engelstad—Don't Call Her a Philanthropist

09 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

As trustee of the Engelstad Foundation, Kris has overseen the endowment of over $300 million in scholarships and grants. Kris talks about working as a...

393: Pete Hegseth—The War on Warriors

02 Jul 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In honor of Independence Day, TWIHI welcomes Army veteran and NYT bestselling author Pete Hegseth, who talks about why civic rituals like parades are ...

392: Coffee with Mom—Keep an Eye on Your Son's Stool with Peggy Rowe

27 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Peggy Rowe is a three-time New York Times bestselling author, the matriarch of the Rowe family, and, of course, Mike's mom. The coffee klatch conversa...

391: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY—Credit Where It's Due

25 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Here's a brand new story about the performance of a lifetime followed by another edition of Two Dudes Talking, a.k.a. Mike and Chuck break it down wit...

390: Steven Pressfield—Pulling the Pin

18 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Steven Pressfield, the two-time New York Times Bestselling author of The War of Art, Gates of Fire, and The Legend of Bagger Vance, discusses how to l...

389: Gavin de Becker—You Can Learn a Lot in a Smoke-Filled Airplane

11 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The nation's leading expert on de-escalation and public figure protection unpacks the importance of intuition, the difference between true fear and un...

388: Riley Gaines—Swimming Against the Current

04 Jun 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The 12-time NCAA All-American, 5-time SEC Champion, and 2-time Olympic qualifier who went from being one of the fastest collegiate swimmers in the wor...

387: Firefighters Candice McDonald and Jonathan Dayton—Make Me a Firefighter

28 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

In a double-header of do-goodery, TWIHI welcomes not one but two very distinguished volunteer firefighters to discuss why they have been called to suc...

386: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY—Here Be Dragons

21 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

First, a brand-new mystery about brave men in a distant sea, then Mike and Chuck take a deeper dive.  

385: Karey Kirkpatrick—I Don't Want to Manage People Like Me

14 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The film writer, director, and producer known for Over the Hedge, Chicken Run, and James and the Giant Peach talks about his work ethic and creative p...

384: Matt Hagan and Chloe Hudson—Freedom Food and Funny Cars

07 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Matt is a four-time NHRA Funny Car world champion and first-generation cattle and CBD farmer. Chloe is a mikeroweWORKS work ethic scholarship recipien...

383: Coffee with Mom—Nude Sunbathing with America's Grandmother

02 May 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The three-time NYT bestselling author, a.k.a. Mike's mom, talks the chosen frozen on Easter Sunday, speaking in tongues, the Key Bridge tragedy, Fort ...

382: Scott Mann—Individualism Rightly Understood

30 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The former U.S. Army Green Beret, NYT bestselling author, leadership consultant, and perennial storyteller talks about the division and tribal behavio...

381: Chuck Klausmeyer & NEW STORY—The Face of an Angel

23 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

A NEW mystery for the curious mind with a short attention span, followed by Mike and Chuck taking a deeper dive into the story's DOUBLE reveal. That's...

380: Steven Kurutz—American Flannel

16 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

What does it take to make a traditional flannel shirt in America? According to this New York Times reporter it's a combination of engineering and arti...

379: Jordan Harbinger—Psst… Wanna Buy a Stadium Buddy?

09 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The former Wall Street lawyer and current OG podcaster drops by to discuss the latest in Podcastladia, how patternicity and our desire for certainty c...

378: Jeff Harmon & Neal Harmon—Surviving Disney

02 Apr 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The serial entrepreneurs and founders of Angel Studios talk about growing up poor in a family of eleven, how they went from selling potatoes door to d...

377: Peter Tilden—Sitting in a Puddle of Tilden

26 Mar 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The writer, producer, and veteran radio broadcaster drops by to regale us with stories from the entertainment trenches, explains why he created the po...

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