Mike chats with billionaire entrepreneur and producer Thomas Tull, a man whose career has repeatedly put him just one degree away from greatness. Tull talks about his ownership stakes in professional sports teams including his beloved Pittsburgh Steelers, how he helped create a data-driven approach to marketing blockbuster films through Legendary Pictures and why understanding audiences mattered as much as the movies themselves. Along the way, Tull explains how it feels when his rock band, Ghost Hounds, takes the stage to open for none other than The Rolling Stones. Today's episode is sponsored by PureTalk.com/Rowe Save 50% off your first month! MCSF.org/apply Check your availability and apply today! Lineman.edu to find your pathway to the trades FoldsofHonor.org/scholarship to donate or apply.

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