History Meets Galaxy with Tony Gilroy and Mike Duncan
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What is the opening premise and why does Jon bring on Tony Gilroy and Mike Duncan?
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Hey, everybody. Welcome to the weekly show podcast. My name is Jon Stewart. We are back after being off for, I think, a week there. And we're taping this damn thing. What is there? Wednesday, July 9th. It's probably going to air tomorrow. As of this moment, the Epstein files are still not here. They were here. They were on a desk. And then they weren't on the desk. And then they said that they don't have the files. Apparently, a gentleman named Jesse Epstein, who was convicted, sex trafficking, hundreds of people. There were hundreds of victims of this, but apparently acted alone. There are no files. And then maybe tomorrow they will have the files. And it turns out all the files were written on with lemon juice on paper.
Oh, they just had to hold them up under the light. And then they appeared again. This has been such a surreal experience. Watching this administration in this moment Donald Trump very clearly came to power. The fuel of his rise was the kinetic energy of conspiracy. He rode the power of, quote unquote, the secret knowledge to conspiracy. light up his audiences to drive them mad with injustice and how they were gonna fight it. There was this deep state and they all knew about it. And there was a liberal conspiracy and there were children involved and they were, and Trump and all his influencers and all those individuals that force amplified the conspiracies, are what I think drew his movement together. It was, in many ways, it's the glue.
that holds the MAGA moment much more than I think patriotism does.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the opening premise and why does Jon bring on Tony Gilroy and Mike Duncan?
0:00–16:13
2
How do Jon, Tony, and Mike introduce the guests and set up the conversation about history and fiction?
16:13–44:49
3
What does Mike Duncan say about de‑constructing revolutions and the patterns he finds in history?
44:49–54:34
4
How does Mike explain why revolutions often split into factions after a power vacuum?
54:34–1:05:09
5
How does Tony Gilroy describe building revolutionary characters and worlds in Andor?
1:05:09–1:37:23