Ep. 5: “Full Moon Party” with Carrie Coon and Parker Posey

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What is the White Lotus podcast about?

Jia Tolentino 0:46
Hello and welcome to the White Lotus official podcast companion to season three. I'm Gia Tolentino.
And I'm Josh Bierman.
Jia Tolentino 0:53
And wow, what an episode.
Parker Posey 0:57
Wow.
Jia Tolentino 1:00
We knew that stuff was going to happen in the Full Moon Party, but before we start talking about the episode, I have a question for you. I feel like this is a valuable opportunity for us. I'm an Asian woman in front of a white man. This is, I want to give you a safe space to say, like, if you have always, if you believe that on the inside you too are an Asian woman, you could say it now.
Right. Everybody's, there's a new permission structure.
Jia Tolentino 1:23
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wanted to make sure we had that in this room. Okay, my real question for you was, are you sad that you didn't show up in the Full Moon Party?
Oh, yeah.
Jia Tolentino 1:31
I was... For people that maybe missed earlier episodes, Josh was on set bragging, bragging, having been on set for the full moon party.
Yeah, and I was an extra. I was dancing around, but I did not get a glimpse of myself, so I was very disappointed.
Jia Tolentino 1:45
Yeah, I didn't see you either.
I was... gripping the table. But no, we'll have to watch it again.
Jia Tolentino 1:52
Yeah, we'll watch it again just for you. Yeah, just to see. All right. So this episode is called Full Moon Party. It is written and directed by Mike White. There is sort of two tracks happening on it. There is quieter stuff happening at the hotel with three of the Ratliffs, Belinda, Mook and Guy Talk, et cetera. And then everyone else is lepting loose. Yeah.

Why didn't Josh Bearman appear in the Full Moon Party scene?

Jia Tolentino 2:18
And later in this episode, we get to talk to two queens, Carrie Coon and Parker Posey.
A big part of this episode is our three gals and Chloe, Chelsea, Lachlan, and Saxon on the party boat. I mean, we're at episode five. It's kind of like the midpoint of the story. And it's also that part, like if you're at camp or you're on vacation, there's the moment when You're skinny dipping in the pool on ecstasy, right? This is what is happening in this episode.

How does Saxon's character develop during the Full Moon Party?

Everybody has just like the inhibitions have been shed. They've surveyed the social landscape, felt present, and now they're ready. They're going for it. I mean, it's montaged together, right? You're seeing kind of these dual images of both parties, right? And so there's sort of, on the boat, It's in stages. They're like, there's the approach to the party. It's almost kind of like the mythical passage making, right? They're crossing the water. They're talking about what to expect and then they get to the party.
Jia Tolentino 3:25
Right. You know what? I was saying last time that Saxon needs to confront, you know, the unassimilatable other or whatever. And it's like he goes in the zone at the end of the party, right? Like he's, I was waiting for something like this moment for Saxon when he can't, you know, he says, he's like, I don't do drugs. I am the drug because he can't handle drugs. Right.
I know he says Saxon doesn't do drugs. So it's like a classic like a third person.
Jia Tolentino 3:47
Yeah.
But Lachlan does. He goes right for it immediately. Saxon is shocked. And then I guess Saxon does do drugs because he felt the peer pressure and he does it. And I like how he's almost immediately seems like on the verge of epiphany. Right. When they get to the full moon party, since he's like never, you know, not in control. Right. Of his own self. Confidence lock.
Walton Goggins 4:10
And that's how you get people to do what you want. Because most people don't know what they want, and a lot of them, here's a little secret. They just want to be used.
He's always, like, at the gym, getting his pump, drinking his protein powder. And so to be kind of, like, intoxicated in a real way is something new to him.
Jia Tolentino 4:31
Right, and he's also constantly articulating more than anyone his framework of how the world is and how the world works. And it seems like Lachlan was like, you know what, like, don't talk about it, just be about it, you know? Like it's like Saxon is it's as if he's living within this sort of fortress of mantras about strength and domination. Oh, right. Right.

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